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Old 11-16-2011, 07:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am thinking of upgrading from a 750 to a rotary. What are the differences between the 8560 and 8570? How do these compare with the IH 1460 or 1660 in corn and soy?
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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8560 has a 5.9 litre cummins 177 hp 1986 and 190 hp 1987 (underpowered in wheat), white transmission and final drive`s poor chopper design. 8570 1990-1991 220hp. 8.3 cummins no power bulge still underpowered. 1992 had 240 hp with power bulge to 260. MF 860 transmission 4 speed with MF860 final drives and rekord straw chopper. In my opinion 8570`s are the best combines ever built.
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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We had a Massey 8560 that we bought new in 1987, and traded away in 1994. For the crops we combined with it, it produced a fairly clean sample, but rotor loss increased in barley if you pushed it too hard. The cummins 5.9 litre engine was quite underpowered and you could always see black smoke coming out of the exhaust. Some irritations with it were as the intake auger in front of the rotor wore down the slightest bit, feeding became more difficult and as the inlet beater propells the crop material up into the rotor, it would constantly grunt, especially in tough conditions. The front beated is not the funnest to unplug if you plug it. I believe some have retrofitted the newer style spiral vaned beater in place of the old square one, and that was supposed to be a dramatic improvement in the feeding of the rotor. I think someone in my area did that on an 8570. The stone trap door did not have a proper latching system on it, so we installed a homemade one, and always had to open, clean out, and close the stone trap with a crowbar. There was no slug wrench or reverser provided with the 8560, so we had to use a big pipewrench on the header driveshaft to unplug the header or feeder. The 8570 came with a header/feeder reverser. In order to keep from destroying the ground drive traction belt, you had to go lightly on the propulsion control lever, and if I remember right, the belt tensioning spring from the factory was so light, we had to put a heavier spring on to keep the belt from vibrating. Inside the engine output shaft housing we used to have trouble with the bearings failing, so we had a machine shop drill a hole for a grease fitting so we could grease the bearings, and had no problems with bearings failing after that. The radiator fins were spaced too close together, and the rotary screen wasn't always all that effective, and the rad needed to be cleaned more often. Other than that, I found the combine was fairly easy to set, was comfortable enough to operate, plus was a fairly simple machine to work on for the most part. In 1994, we traded it away for a NH TR 97, and although the nh had more capacity, I sure began to miss the ole' 8560 once I got a taste of the nh electronic stone trap door falsely opening constantly in some conditions, one of mine and many others biggest peeves with nh, that went on for too many years too long.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The 8560 was a little short on power, however if you took off the pump and turned up the governor setting so it would react quicker you then had a better performer.
The hydraulics were not great but were better than the 850/860s for sure.
The settings were basically the same as the later 8570/8780 and the best part they were simple and dammed reliable.
capacity wise it put a 1660 IH to shame
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Old 12-29-2011, 02:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Anyone know of a 8560 with a working 4x4 for sale?
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Not in the price range you were talking about in the other thread, but has heads included.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Tractorhouse, Rudolph Bros. 8560 with RWA and both heads.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Even with the heads it is a 1988 model and to me about 10k over priced.. 4500 hours. That combine is at the end of its life.. to me it would have to be in perfect condition with a new crate engine and a lot of rotor mods and new parts.
That's my issue With over priced used equipment.. is my logic off?
I guess if it had 3500 hours instead of 4500 it would be worth it.

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Old 01-21-2012, 08:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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They told me that machine would be completely rebuilt
For that price. Said it would last me 5-6 years running
300-500 acres a year. Does that sound right to you guys
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