Krone Big X 1100 vs. other Krone models

bowchop · 02-05-2012, 10:38 PM

This summer we ran the Big X 1100 in the Big MAN tour. We run JD choppers and are kind of unfamiliar with what is out there and going on with the Krone harvesters. It was no doubt an impressive machine, but how does it stack up to the other Krone models? Is it just more horsepower or have they addressed some of the concerns out there that cause problems? Just kind of wanting some info to know if it should be considered when we trade.

junior · 02-06-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bowchop

This summer we ran the Big X 1100 in the Big MAN tour. We run JD choppers and are kind of unfamiliar with what is out there and going on with the Krone harvesters. It was no doubt an impressive machine, but how does it stack up to the other Krone models?
Same as the rest. Just more power.
Is it just more horsepower or have they addressed some of the concerns out there that cause problems?
Nope, same here. They believe that the machine is perfect and that all problems are caused by its operators.
Just kind of wanting some info to know if it should be considered when we trade.
I wouldn't even think of it. I would rather run ANY manufacturers machine before that one.

But I'm biased.

jd6850 · 02-06-2012, 09:11 PM

So junior can you expound on "your" experience with the 1100 krone vs your experience with the 1000s?

He wants info from people with experience not just an opinion without proof...

joblo · 02-06-2012, 10:59 PM

The new machines are very easy to service now. 15 min maybe to blow the chopper off with a 185cfm compressor. Feedroll cabinet is a breeze to clean now, whereas it used to be the most time consuming. I think you will spend more time at the radiators than anywhere else now. They are easily accesible from both sides to now.

LOTS of junk in the trunk on that thing though. I was really impressed with the man motor. I ran the 850 not the 100 but the power curve is pretty good, and that thing continues to pull hard with a solid load on it.

junior · 02-07-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jd6850

So junior can you expound on "your" experience with the 1100 krone vs your experience with the 1000s?

He wants info from people with experience not just an opinion without proof...

1000 has the same FAILED accelerator as the 1100 after one year. Does the 1100 cut more? Yes, it does. But for how long? Here is the part you won't like...... IMO Krone came up with the Vari-stream because they could not keep Accelerators in the machines. What does this mean if you have a machine that is only 2 years old and are plagued with problems..... Sorry about your luck you should spend another 500K and buy the newest, latest and greatest, might be fixed model.

bigx1000 · 02-09-2012, 10:33 AM

@junior: In what part of the world did you run a 1100 against a 1000? And how many hours is your experience in Krone with a MAN in it?

bigfarm · 02-09-2012, 11:43 AM

can tell ya one thing, the 1100 uses a single engine not two like the 1000.

ohiocutter · 02-09-2012, 10:49 PM

Junior this is going to be fun! YOU ARE WRONG!!! Accelerator is not the same as in the 1000. Get on Argo parts and try to prove me wrong, you will find bearing housings to be different. Also shaft and welding on accelerator are different also. I will say I have had some accelerator problems with Krone in past, but ran great two seasons on 1100. Vari stream is a great improvement, all electronics in cab a huge plus, kp rolls still wear out to soon, but bearings and rest are great, sharpening system is reliable. All in all we are pleased, but we never had that many problems with v12 s either.

junior · 02-10-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ohiocutter

Junior this is going to be fun! YOU ARE WRONG!!! Accelerator is not the same as in the 1000. Get on Argo parts and try to prove me wrong, you will find bearing housings to be different. Also shaft and welding on accelerator are different also. I will say I have had some accelerator problems with Krone in past, but ran great two seasons on 1100. Vari stream is a great improvement, all electronics in cab a huge plus, kp rolls still wear out to soon, but bearings and rest are great, sharpening system is reliable. All in all we are pleased, but we never had that many problems with v12 s either.

REALLY! This is going to be even more fun! ACCORDING to the LIARS @KRONE It was "updated" to the 1100 style when it failed last year! PROVE ME WRONG! Might want to make a call or two and try to get the part numbers that were installed LAST spring that have already FAILED! You have to remember "They will be fixed as failed" LMFAO

@POS1000 I ran it enough hours to know that it was the same $h!t just a different pile.

ohiocutter · 02-12-2012, 09:16 PM

Someday you will have to eat with that mouth junior. Did you run the 1000 once it had updated parts? Maybe you are the cause? Ha,ha We have not failed a accelerator the last 3 seasons. Wish I had answers for you so you could put some of that anger to bed finally. Sure is good thing your Claas machines are perfect or you might be bashing them, then you would be stuck with NH or JD.

02-05-2012, 10:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
bowchop Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Idaho Posts: 12	Krone Big X 1100 vs. other Krone models This summer we ran the Big X 1100 in the Big MAN tour. We run JD choppers and are kind of unfamiliar with what is out there and going on with the Krone harvesters. It was no doubt an impressive machine, but how does it stack up to the other Krone models? Is it just more horsepower or have they addressed some of the concerns out there that cause problems? Just kind of wanting some info to know if it should be considered when we trade.

02-06-2012, 09:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
jd6850 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 115	So junior can you expound on "your" experience with the 1100 krone vs your experience with the 1000s? He wants info from people with experience not just an opinion without proof...

02-06-2012, 10:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
joblo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 327	The new machines are very easy to service now. 15 min maybe to blow the chopper off with a 185cfm compressor. Feedroll cabinet is a breeze to clean now, whereas it used to be the most time consuming. I think you will spend more time at the radiators than anywhere else now. They are easily accesible from both sides to now. LOTS of junk in the trunk on that thing though. I was really impressed with the man motor. I ran the 850 not the 100 but the power curve is pretty good, and that thing continues to pull hard with a solid load on it.

02-09-2012, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
bigx1000 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13	@junior: In what part of the world did you run a 1100 against a 1000? And how many hours is your experience in Krone with a MAN in it?

02-09-2012, 11:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
bigfarm Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: south central MN Posts: 357	can tell ya one thing, the 1100 uses a single engine not two like the 1000.

02-09-2012, 10:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
ohiocutter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 165	Junior this is going to be fun! YOU ARE WRONG!!! Accelerator is not the same as in the 1000. Get on Argo parts and try to prove me wrong, you will find bearing housings to be different. Also shaft and welding on accelerator are different also. I will say I have had some accelerator problems with Krone in past, but ran great two seasons on 1100. Vari stream is a great improvement, all electronics in cab a huge plus, kp rolls still wear out to soon, but bearings and rest are great, sharpening system is reliable. All in all we are pleased, but we never had that many problems with v12 s either.

02-12-2012, 09:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
ohiocutter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 165	Someday you will have to eat with that mouth junior. Did you run the 1000 once it had updated parts? Maybe you are the cause? Ha,ha We have not failed a accelerator the last 3 seasons. Wish I had answers for you so you could put some of that anger to bed finally. Sure is good thing your Claas machines are perfect or you might be bashing them, then you would be stuck with NH or JD.

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