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Old 04-28-2010, 05:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just wondering what changes were made from the A thru C series on the Challenger MT's, particularly the MT 865. We are considering an 'A' series as a primary planting tractor and then for use a utility tractor for mainly grain cart work.

Was there any significant changes made to the suspension in the later series that would be of benefit for the grain cart work?
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I cant tell you of hand but do have the abilty to look at alote of challanger info, Im sure for a fact there are engine changes to do with emissons teirs. Will try and look at more info for you when I have end off month out the road.

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Old 04-28-2010, 09:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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mt865 had an tier2 c16 engine ,no essential updates in undercarriage just more heat and wear resistent rubber on c series
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There are a few changes in the cab and controls, optional poly coated mid wheels, hydraulics are updated, fully ISO monitor. These are what I can think of off the top of my head.
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Old 05-01-2010, 02:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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What one had the C18 in it? The are in one of the B seires challangers?
I would have a c16 over a c18 any day. Or go a smaller tractor with a c15 for a gr8 engine.
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Old 05-03-2010, 07:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The MT865A
C16 500 HP Tier 2

The MT865B
C18 510 HP Tier 3

The MT865C
C18 525 HP Tier 3


The engine in the B and C are the same. Cat just started using the same spec that everybody is using. The C has lots of changes in the Hydraulic Couplers and Cab layout, and electronics.
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Old 06-20-2010, 09:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies guys, Sorry to bump an old email but have been busy seeding. MadSnake, how do the C15, C16 and C18 compare for fuel efficiency? What is ot you dont like about the C18?

Dont spose anybody has a pdf or link or something to an A or B series brochure or other info?
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Old 06-20-2010, 04:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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westaus, the c18 have not held up well in earth moving and for me the linner ar to thing, c15, c16, and c18 are all the same cylinder block just linner pac and crank changes on the hard were side of it.

From what I know the c18 liked the fuel more then the c16, there is a block around here with a A and B 865 on the same work and the A is batter on fuel.

As for the brochers I will see what is lay around at work there was some old ones just have to if they are still about.

How is the challanger dealer in west aussie?

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Old 06-20-2010, 07:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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madsnake,

Curiously there are two distributors for the Challengers here in WA. AGCO dealers (there are not many over here) such as PH Kerr & co in Espererance obviously sell them, but McIntosh & Son (New Holland dealers) also have an arrangement to sell them and have the largest distribution network. If 450 hp was probably enough to get the job done, would you go for the C15 in the MT855 or the C16 in the MT865? Do you think fuel efficiency has decreased with increasing Tiers?
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Old 06-20-2010, 07:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Westaus I cant remeber the figers of the test specs but I know the C18 using more fuel on paper as well than the C16. I think if you can get buy with a C15 thats what I would go for.

They are a bit diffrent to the highway truck C15 but there are plenty of C15 at 550hp with 14000 + hrs getting around on BDouble work, I think the C15 is the pic for holding up long term.

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