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Old 02-13-2009, 02:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well heck, I can't find my brochure. Oh well. Someone already posted scans of it somewhere in this forum. There are at least two topics about this somewhere; they shouldn't be too hard to find.

As I understand Kinze never put Cats in them; they just used Cummins. The 855 in the 86XX family was rated at 350 horsepower. The 84XX family was 300hp, and the 8850 was 400hp. All of the tractors had the frame extended to fit the larger engine. They also moved the hydraulic pump to behind the engine, then mounted the batteries above that. They topped it off with a tilting fiberglass hood and the option of either a muffler or chromed straight pipe. The front half of the tractor was repainted as standard, but painting the back half and wheels was extra.

I've seen it stressed somewhere (either in the literature or from talking to a rep at a farm show, can't remember exactly) that the conversion wasn't designed to let you pull more than what JD intended for the tractor. It's just to let you pull what you have more efficiently. I kinda think an 855 is overkill for an 84XX or 86XX family tractor. I think an 8.3 or, at most, an L10/M11 would be a better fit. I'm not an engineer, though; just thinking out loud.

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Old 02-13-2009, 02:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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One thing I wonder is if there were any overheating issues on these conversions. Was the same radiator that came stock with the 619 engine used on the Kinze conversion?
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I have no idea. I've heard that the 619s had overheating problems when worked really hard, so one would think a bigger radiator would be in order for the 855.

Dad talked to the reps a few years ago at the 3I show about converting our 8440, but he decided the expense wasn't really worth it and put in a reman 466. It's a cool idea, but I would always be worrying about driveline components holding up with all that torque. Plus, I'd hate to have a mechanic tear into the old tractor and find something wrong that would take a lot of money to repair.
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There are some pictures on my old post http://www.combineforums.proboards42.com....lay&thread=17 45
The repowers are a thing of the past! There is NOBODY doing them anymore that I am aware of. If I am wrong, correct me. I have a 8850 that needs open heart surgery.
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Old 02-13-2009, 06:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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As far as i know,kjrepower in alberta is working on a cummins conversion for older Deeres.
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Yes I have talked with the Ponoka fella's already, and it will be some time before they are avail, if at all.
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Old 02-13-2009, 09:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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For what it is worth I know of a 8850 Kinze re-power for sale at Blackwell, OK. If looking for one PM me.
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Kinze just got out of the repowers about a year ago now but it would not be hard to fab your own
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We actually got the last kit form Kinze in summer 2007. Our 619 laied down spring of 2007 with a spun main bearing. Did some calling on JD 619's. Then I check the Kinze web site for repowers. It said they were selling last kits to customers to install them selfs. So we purchased the kit went to Williamsburg picked up the frame, hood, drop box ,all hoses, air cleaner, exhaust. . Took to our shop and installed it in winter of 2008. I had a 855 out of a truck We overhauled the 855 ,I had to buy a front sump pan and a VS govern pump. We did the whole project for under 18 grand. It was 15 grand for the kit 2300.00 to overhaul 855. We set the pump at 400 run and looks awesome. We are located in south east South Dakota. I will try to add some photos. alos try to nculed a photo of our pulling tractor
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Old 02-14-2009, 12:25 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Default Deere 4x4 Kinze Repowers - looking for info

Hey,

I am very curious about the old John Deere Kinze repowers, particularly 8630's and 8640's.

I guess you could get them with a Cummins or Cat engine? The ones with CAT engines were the ones that the front end was extended?????

Can anyone explain these machines a little?

Pictures would be awesome!!!!!

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