Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Red River Valley, MB
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I never once said I was using factory John Deere parts. I said our parts were LIKE factory John Deere parts. As in they work the same way with no modifications to the meters needed. No air hoses, no control boxes, no compressors or ducting.
You however said that you used the knockout wheels that I am talking about. Which is 100% false.
I never said 11 MPH didn't work. I said it didn't work properly. Again, anyone with substantial planter experience knows this. Especially if you're concerned about wearing parts out, 11 MPH on gauge wheels, disks, closing wheels, packer wheels, meter drives, drill shafts and jackshafts causes more wear than 5 or 6 MPH. Especially at high seeding rates when you really get those meters turning fast. You can't tell me that doesn't cause more wear where the disk meets the meter housing and where the seals are rubbing on the disk itself. More speed is more friction which causes more heat which causes more wear. An air knockout doesn't eliminate any of these.
A few thousand acres have been done with our prototypes along with countless hours on a test stand.
Our holes are smaller, I felt this was insinuated when I said we had a canola-specific disk that we used down to 3.7 grams per 1000 kernel weight and had no issues, but I'll try to be more clear from here on out.
So in my eyes I still find that you stating that up to 11 mph is "no problem" and your air cleaning system is "100% trouble free" is misleading.
Nothing is ever trouble free and the speed thing is subjective. You can float canola on with a fertilizer spreader at 80 feet at 16 MPH and still get a crop, so why would you bother with a planter unless you wanted to use that planter properly?
This last season was my 9th year planting canola and I've been operating planters in corn and soybeans since the mid 90's. My experience bleeds down from my family who has been using planters in corn and beans since the 70's.
My main goal with this is to get farmers input costs down with higher yields, I don't really care if it's done with your system or our system but if we get guys out there trying to do it at 11 mph because of a poor recommendation and it fails due to the excessive speed, it might discourage others from using a planter in which case everybody loses.
Nobody plants corn, beans, beets, soybeans, cotton, anything at 11 mph, ever. Why? Because it doesn't work properly.
Last edited by jcalder; 12-14-2013 at 06:24 PM.