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Old 09-29-2008, 07:28 AM   #21 (permalink)
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go to www.bourgault.com. The 8810 is the airseeder, while the 5710 is their airdrill. Or morrisindustries.com -the concept 2000 is the seeder and the maxims are the standard drills.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:56 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Jacob,

What make is your planting gear? I'm 95% sure it is an air seeder. Airdrills are not very common here in Aus. But lots of farmers set up there ariseeders in a similar style. There are probarly 20 differnt makes of after makett press wheels for airseeders.

Most people here now (90%) practice no-till and are not trying to leave there feilds looking like a carrot patch. One of the main reasons is to conserve moisture and stop errision, plus fuel is way to dear compared to the boomspray.

This question came up at a feild day a couple of weeks ago and it was decided that to be classed as an airdrill there are no weight carring wheels in the frame.
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:26 AM   #23 (permalink)
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(boot with a chute with a press wheel directly behind it perfectly describes an air drill.)
I will have to disagree with you on that air seeders can easily be modified to fit this discription. Knock on knives the same as a drill, either shank mounted packers, or gang mount packers in place of harrows. My opinion air seeders are much better when set up this way. Plenty enough packing pressure, much less drag, therefore less hp needed therefore less fuel needed, seed placement is exact same as a drill. Unless you get into seedmaster/seedhawk style.
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:12 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Default Re: Air Seeder vs Air Drill

in australia we just call any seeder that uses air an airseeder, whether it uses drill methods (knife points and press wheels) or conventional methods (sweeps and finger harrows). that what we say in SA anyways lol
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:58 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Guys, in my experience in Australia most farmers stepped up from combines to 'air seeders' which were a dual purpose machine. That is it can be used as a cultivator/chisel plow and then changed to an air seeder by adding the air cart. This was/is considered a cost effective way of covering all the bases with one machine. Products like the Flexicoil ST820 and Morris Concept 2000 were the best at doing this by providing ground following contour-ability with flexing frames and floating hitches whilst also providing the options (harrows and/or packers - sweeps or knife openers) and strength to cultivate/chisel plow. Trash flow was OK on these types of machines (naturally depends on spacing).As time has progressed and farming methods/requirements change due to things like wanting increased efficiencies, direct drilling has pushed the need of the air drill, that is a dedicated seeding machine - not suitable for cultivation/chisel plow work, just for seeding with dedicated packer wheels. Once again companies like Flexicoil, Morris, Bourgault all have variations of air drills with only the Flexicoil & Morris having flexable frames. Trash flow was still only OK. In the last few years, the big players (Morris Contour Drill, Bourgault 3310 & I believe Flexi have a version on trial) have gone down the Seedhawk path of individual openers, even though some of the Australian manufacturers had versions before Seedhawk. They offer individual opener accuracy that far out perform the traditional air drills with less setup and lower draft requirements. Trash flow from my experience has been very good (used a Morris Contour Drill). Because these are relatively new, there aren't a lot of used/demo machines about so if you don't want to spend much, you will have to find a satisfactory compromise.
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