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Best No Till Box Drill?

I'm looking for comparisons of the best no till box drill...

Sunflower
Landoll
Great Plains
Deere
Crustbuster
Any others I forgot...

Will be used to notill some soybeans, feed, wheat, and milo.

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1590 no dought
-great down pressure
-well built
-good openers
-good dealer support
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Being from Kansas originally, I like the Great Plains, Landoll, then Crustbuster, then Sunflower in that order. There are usually some drills and planters on the Purple Wave auctions , including a Kinze 3600 the one coming up 21 July 2011.
http://www.purplewave.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi

Or if you are in a hurry here are some Great Plains on the 29 June auction.
Purple Wave auction listing | Wednesday June 29 Ag Equipment Internet Auction
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This isn't for me guys, it's for a friend of mine. He is looking at a box drill as the CCS drills are out of the budget for the year and he has a Kabota tractor (130HP) I believe to pull it.

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The JD 1590 can be pulled with 130hp @ 15' width, but those drills are very heavy and if the pulling tractor has any weight disadvantage or perhaps smaller tires, the 2 point hitch model should be considered IMO.

The dolly wheel hitch model has no weight transferred to the tractor and can really be an issue on hills or when traveling on the road. I personally have the dolly wheel hitch model and prefer it, but I have larger, heavier tractors and I like the ability to tow it with anything including a truck.

There are a lot of aftermarket stuff available for the JD. However, one draw back is those long plastic tubes that go from the meter tot he bellows hose at the opener. If it has to climb much of a hill, the front tubes will plug and vice versa.

The JD is the only drill I have actual experience with, so it is the only one that I can really say anything about. However, the neighbor has a GP triple disk, and I had hired him to do some planting with it before buying the JD. As with anything, there are areas of build quality that need addressed, but it really did do a nice job. In heavy residue it has less hairpinning issues than the JD.

Sunflower has a dealer network that has some local availability, but they have not seemed to make their way into my area. That may be a dealer thing more than a brand thing, but the openers on the Sunflower sure look heavy and well built.
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There are a lot of Sunflower drills around here, most of them seem to be holding up pretty well. Older ones that turn up at auctions still seem like good units. We're (hopefully) in the market for a new drill, and Great Plains is first on the list. We think having coulters in front of the openers will be a benefit in heavier residue.
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Here is a direct comparison for you:

Exapta Solutions :: Drill Design Comparisons

The JD 50/60/90-series really is designed for no-till, with the depth-gauging, seed firming, and furrow closing functions separated. The other drills are still tillage-era designs, perhaps with heavy construction, heavier down-pressure springs, and/or coulters to make them halfway functional in no-till conditions.

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Matt Hagny,
agronomy consultant since '94.
founder/Pres. of Exapta Solutions ('99)
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