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Tips for adding a second JD 1910 tank

Anyone have some learned experience, tips or how to for adding a JD 1910 Tow between tank to a 1895 disk drill. we currently have a 43' with a 430 bu tow behind tank, and we are looking at adding another 430 bu tow between to increase seeding times.

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Are you thinking of making one fertilizer and one seed?



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Depending on what seeding, figure out what each tank will be depending on amount of each product put down
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you will have to ask a dealer but when I was setting up my unit (a 1835 with a tow between liquid caddy) I was told that the controller only will operate 5 meters / products. any doubles that I have seen set up have had one of the carts as a 2 compartment tank and that might be why. may not be able to use one compartment.....


the tow between / tow behind setup actually handles really nice in the field, and puts the tractor almost 30 feet ahead of the seeding tool so much more likely to be on dry ground when the drill is in a wet spot. more weight on the tractor too (might have to re ballast though). cab cam is your friend!


make sure you have enough hydraulic capacity for 2 fans - I know for me, between the hydraulic fert pump, fan, and constant down pressure on the sfp's I am using up more of my Hydraulic capacity than I thought I would be on 78gpm. must loose some pressure / force on the very long hydraulic hoses to the back. transport is the scary part - seems like no matter how wide a turn I take on corners the back end of the air cart gets into the ditch. not a problem if the middle cart isn't there.
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although I haven't done it myself I know there are a few guys who do it. Assuming you have the power and hydraulic capacity to do it the main challenge would be electrical issues.

Here are some thoughts on what I would do:

run a separate monitor and wiring harness for the second tank. There would be a little more up front cost, but for fewer headaches and I think it would be worth it. Depending upon section control and prescriptions and your goals in that area I believe it is just too much for one monitor. Get to know 7 pin connectors, ISO connectors, and the ground points. It may seem like a lot, but if a guy takes his time and follows the harnesses and understands the basic theory it goes a long way to getting it going in the field.

Height switch will be needed for the second cart as well. Maybe? you can tee into the original height switch and steal the signal, but may have to add another. not a big deal.

If you can't find any info in the search function here try "agtalk". For harness requirements look at "agexpress" very knowledgable and will make custom harnesses for better than dealer prices.

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if you don't run autosteer through the JD monitor and have the old style blockage system. Run both carts through the GS3 2630 and install wireless blockage on your toolbar. This way there may not be too much clutter for one monitor

The physical length of the harnesses may cause problems (as in their is a max length that the harnesses can be before needing to beef them up.) I don't know if that would be a problem, but I bring it up because it "could" be an issue.
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i'd buy a bigger tank for your 1895, 2 tanks imo really increases your filling time because you have to move the drill or you need 3 guys to fill your seeder efficient.
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Yeah a bigger tank would be nice but... a 550 isn't much bigger than a 430bu and they won't sell a 850c tank without buying a new conseverve pack 76'. To go to a bourgault tank we are looking at same price as jd 850 tank and have to do modifications to add a primary tower as well, but agree might be easy enough to achieve and wouldn't be so long.
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I went liquid to do the same thing (more acres). This outfit will do about 130 ac per fill in durum and over a quarter section in wheat and canola. peas are about the only place I wish I had a bigger dry tank..... it has an auto shut off on the fill pump so you can actually load both carts at once. 2630 controller will run both at the same time (even can have in the same screen). the Precison ag specialist at Jay Dee made up / ordered all the wiring harnesses and all runs through one controller. I was a little confused when I first got looking into ISOBUS - there is one single control cable running into the cab for controls, that is nice and neat but from the tractor on back there are power lines running everywhere. I like the fact that its all in one display and cab isn't completely cluttered with monitors but each to their own. we had liquid on the old drill but biggest reason that I stayed with it on new one was the ability to cheaply add sectional control. It is only on the nitrogen but even that made a HUGE difference on this year's crop. very little lodging in overlaps or headlands paid big dividends in both harvest efficiency and I think fusarium as well. Distribution system way cheaper than a dry one as well. most expensive part of adding sectional fertilizer was the unlock code from John Deere!
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Door knob I am from same farm and plan to use one whole cart for urea and the 150 and 80 tank for cereal seed and the 200 bushel for seed placed fertilizer. The way I have it calculated would over double the acres to fill time
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I went liquid to do the same thing (more acres). This outfit will do about 130 ac per fill in durum and over a quarter section in wheat and canola. peas are about the only place I wish I had a bigger dry tank..... it has an auto shut off on the fill pump so you can actually load both carts at once. 2630 controller will run both at the same time (even can have in the same screen). the Precison ag specialist at Jay Dee made up / ordered all the wiring harnesses and all runs through one controller. I was a little confused when I first got looking into ISOBUS - there is one single control cable running into the cab for controls, that is nice and neat but from the tractor on back there are power lines running everywhere. I like the fact that its all in one display and cab isn't completely cluttered with monitors but each to their own. we had liquid on the old drill but biggest reason that I stayed with it on new one was the ability to cheaply add sectional control. It is only on the nitrogen but even that made a HUGE difference on this year's crop. very little lodging in overlaps or headlands paid big dividends in both harvest efficiency and I think fusarium as well. Distribution system way cheaper than a dry one as well. most expensive part of adding sectional fertilizer was the unlock code from John Deere!
It helps quite a bit when you have a dealer willing to tackle the project...... sadly that isn't the case everywhere.

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