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Keeton Firmers vs Schaffert Rebounders

Bringing up the old comparison of keetons vs schafferts. Hoping to hear from guys that have ran both because I am torn between the two right now. I will be putting them on both my 16 row john deere planter and 30ft landoll drill, tired of not keeping my seed in the ground, not worried about fertilizer as I already have totally tubular. 75% of what I plant with my planter is no-till into heavy wheat stubble or corn stalks, the rest is strip till. My drill is most commonly wheat into sunflower stalks but also do a few peas and soybeans into corn stalks. Only plant into wet conditions once every 5 years or so. I plant some pinto beans and sunflowers also, would the keetons be too hard on those more fragile seeds? Thanks for any input.



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Also seen some from Flo-rite, wouldn't hurt to have a comparison with those as well.

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I recommend the short low profile keeton. Tried a few and that's the one that stays clean of mud for me

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The Exapta mojo wires are a must with Keaton seed firmers the extra pressure helps a lot with mud sticking to them
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The Exapta mojo wires are a must with Keaton seed firmers the extra pressure helps a lot with mud sticking to them
I like the sound of adding extra pressure to my keatons - I haven't heard of those mojo wires but I shall investigate them




as for the original question keeton firmers vs schaffert rebounders . . . .


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have run nothing
then ran keetons for a few years
then tried rebounders for a couple cos at the time I wanted to run liquid fert & it was easier that way
then ran nothing for a bit
and am now back to using keetons & that's how itll stay
zero till, heavy black self mulching clays, from wet to dry, planting cotton, sorghum, sunflowers, corn, mung beans etc
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I have run Keatons on a planter and rebounders on my 1890. I think the rebounders hold their shape better but aside from that they do a similar job. I can't see either hurting the seed.


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The new to me JD 1760 planter I purchased recently has the dry tail Keetons, they aren't the short style so I hope the work ok, was curious as to how the Flo-rites worked as they did have a replaceable wear pad and what looked like a better thought out in furrow liquid design, not that I would be running liquid fertilizer down them, but more than likely some other in furrow stuff. Ours has 2x2 openers for the fertilizer so I would use that for the fertilizer. Our older planter never had any seed firmers, so not sure what I will see for results this spring. Should be better on this planter.


I will have to look if mine has the mojo wires, may need them as our soils can get pretty sticky when damp.
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[QUOTE=Farmer Roy;2727378]I like the sound of adding extra pressure to my keatons - I haven't heard of those mojo wires but I shall investigate them

www.exapta.com they have some good products
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The new to me JD 1760 planter I purchased recently has the dry tail Keetons, they aren't the short style so I hope the work ok, was curious as to how the Flo-rites worked as they did have a replaceable wear pad and what looked like a better thought out in furrow liquid design, not that I would be running liquid fertilizer down them, but more than likely some other in furrow stuff. Ours has 2x2 openers for the fertilizer so I would use that for the fertilizer. Our older planter never had any seed firmers, so not sure what I will see for results this spring. Should be better on this planter.


I will have to look if mine has the mojo wires, may need them as our soils can get pretty sticky when damp.
The Flo-Rite is a nifty design, but it has tended to collect more mud than Keetons, unfortunately.
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I've been using keetons for decades to put down 10-34. They are redesigned for this year and look better.

I quit using mojo wires. They wear out the keetons in about 1500 acres on a 16 row, and sometimes ruin the seed firmer if they get caught in stubble when folding. Mojo wires also make the fertilizer a pita. Don't get me wrong, Mojos work great for the first 1000 acres.

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