Have talked about seeding chickpeas with a planter in the past. I know of one guy trying it, but don't know how it worked. Chickpea seed is usually not uniform in size, anywhere from 7-10mm in size. Would a planter work for this?
One goal would be to decrease seeding rate. Another would be to increase yield.
With a good job of seed singluation could one expect better yields ? Everything I read about beans and corn would lead me to believe this about those crops.
I know nothing about planters and there aren't any to speak of anywhere near here.
So do guys use planters in beans because they have them and maybe don't own an air drill? Or is there some serious advantages? I would think upkeep is big and they seem more complicated than an air drill.
We use a planter in soybeans because a planter has better spacing and better depth control in general compared to an air drill. We cut our rate by 40,000 soybeans and achieve better yields and stand than our air drill. But that is comparing it to a Concord, I'm sure a paralink doesn't a good job seeding soybeans. We seed 30" row crop sunflowers so we just purchased our next one with interplants for doing soybeans on 15" as well instead of upgrading our air drill to be better at seeding soybeans.
Guessing Garbanzo beans are another name for chickpeas? My JD planter book does list them under the large edible bean cell and flat disks, seeds/lb. 750 - 900, (or seeds/kg. 1650 - 1980, for those of you using metric.) The manual is for MaxEmerge XP and pro, even though my planter has ME2 units (seems someone must have lost original books...) But I believe all the meters would use the same plates.
Part #'s are H136092 for the large cell and A52878 for large flat disk according to book, might give you some starting point in searches or comparisons for other planter makes.
Never tried it ourselves as chickpeas aren't grown around here, but plenty of soybeans put in with planters. Everyone here has a planter for corn, drills are more of the off items for soybeans and other stuff, not as common. They usually give very good spacing and population control, weed control in wider rows might be more of an issue but not everyone wants to have a drill for the beans when a planter works just fine.
Dad told me that south country in Moose Jaw was bringing in a planter this year. They were going to supply the planter, a tractor and an operator??? Apparently he got that from Gary Bich in sales.... no idea if it's plate style or vacuum or any fertilizer capacity.....
We planted our corn with an old Jd 7200 8 row planter that our seed salesman lends out if you buy seed from him, he's north of Moose Jaw about 15 min....
Your seed guy, I'm assuming is the guy that tried the chickpeas with a planter. They had that monosoon planter with a Morris aircart behind it a few years back.
You could size your seed and seed 7mm this would make the planter work more consistent. Australia seed chickpeas on real wide spacings there is pictures on here somewhere. I like the planter idea but not many of them used in 15 inch spacing.
The one benefit of wide row spacing should be getting better coverage when spraying fungicide and canopy would take a long time to fill in, which should produce less diesease.
We have panted chickpeas with a JD vac planter on 30" rows. It works really well. You get good uniform spacing in the seed row, and you can control disease better we found.
We did it organically so we row crop cultivated to control the weeds.
We used a 7300 JD planter. Nothing fancy, but it works well.
I think 15" rows would be the best. When I farmed in TN, 15" rows for beans were the most common. A Kinze 3500 planter 11/12 row 15" would be my recommendation.
Seed size didn't seem to matter that much. You just have to get the correct seed disk. I can look tomorrow at the farm and see the JD ones we used. Kinze would be the same, I am pretty sure. They have a lot of interchangeable parts with Deere.
This is good to know. How did you go about the innoculant? Peat I assume ? From some advice above, our local dealer is bringing one in. Might be an opportunity to try seeding some chickpeas with it and maybe canola.
We use Ezyrhiz as a inoculate and direct inject it into the seed trench with 50litres/ha of water it is in a freeze dried form, it works extremely well. Over the years with all the harvesting of chickpeas I have done my favourite row spacing for chickpeas is 0.5m for max yield and still good airflow around the growing plant, the best yield we have harvested here at this type of configuration is 3.5t/ha, but the normal crop would be 2-2.5t/ha on a good planting moisture profile. I'm pretty sure the last time I planted chickpeas with our JD planter we used high rate soya bean plates, but because it's set on one metre rows I don't use it very often for planting peas, we were aiming for 300000s/ha with those plates. All the research here points to best yield for pulse crops being in row spacings less than 0.75m, but with no real gain below 0.3m rows.
Cheers
yes, in furrow injection is the best way of inoculating pulses, especially through a planter
I used to plant chickpeas with a JD Maxemerge on 1m spacings, used soybean plates, worked well but only did that one year, after that I ran the seed through an airseeder box then down the planter rows as I got sick of filling the seed boxes at the end of each run
1m rows worked well for airflow & weed control - allowed shielded spraying & inter row cultivating
however, I now tend to grow chickies on narrower rows, either .5m, or "single skip" on 250mm spacings ( 2 rows in, one row out ) while still aiming for good airflow down the rows
This airspace is it for the prevention of white and gray molds or ascochyta or all three. I had to quit chickpeas because of molds, canopy would never dry out and pods would mold off. Ascochyta was never a problem. 10 inch spacings were used.
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Related Threads
?
?
?
?
?
The Combine Forum
884K posts
52.3K members
Since 2005
A forum community dedicated to all combine owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about specifications, accessories, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more!