John Deere 4940 or Rogator 1396? - The Combine Forum
Register Home Forum Active Topics Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-29-2011, 11:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 71
Default John Deere 4940 or Rogator 1396?

What does anyone know about what sets these two machines apart? John Deere sells a lot more, but Rogator looks to be second or close to it. Does the flexing frame on the Rogator stand up? Will the increase hp in the John Deere be ate up by the emissions stuff?
wheatworld is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-30-2011, 12:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 56
Default

There is nothing that will run with a Rogator In MUD,suspension.power to the ground no comparasment to any of them..Period..All the rest are one a b's ..We tried them all...
lexionpower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2011, 01:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
dragoguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 841
Default

What kinda made up my mind about the two when i saw that the 4940 was almost 37k lbs, and the 1396, with a 100 gallon bigger tank, is under 30k
dragoguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2011, 09:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,196
Default

If case isnt a option id take a deere.... Around here gators dealer support is lacking
casefarmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2011, 09:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 71
Default

I think its quite impressive for John Deere to finally put a little steel into a machine. I'm going into the wettest harvest in history in my area with a 50000# combine and a 25000# grain cart. I'm okay with weight.
John Deere seems to have a very strong boom, very proven drive train and wheel motors, compatible gps equipment, great dealer support, great resale value, and they are the most popular sprayer on the market.
Rogator seems to have lost their way since their good times in the 90's. The transition to Agco caused them to loose most of their customers due to poor service, a lot of changes in their engines in the past years, and excessive wheel motor problems. Today the rogator boom looks to be light, their frame is designed to flex, their gps and monitor is made by someone else, service is sparce, resale is questionable, and I'm guessing they will swith engine brands again to meet tier4.
I know of noone who has new Rogator, so it's hard for me to see any advantages over a Deere.
wheatworld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2011, 09:49 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
dragoguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 841
Default

Your right....if your not concerned about weight, I'd go deere for sure. Its just kinda heavy to be hauling when I'm already way overweight. The booms are great on the deere and the gps compatibility is second to none.
dragoguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2011, 10:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SW Illinois
Posts: 168
Default

Well the wheel motors are now the same that Deere uses. I have no problem with the Deere unit, I just think that the RoGator deserves some credit. My custom ap man puts 30,000 acres a year on his Gators and never welds on the booms. EVER. Keeps them for two years, then trades. Current machine has the 120's. They are definitely not light. Plenty of steel in there for durability and strength. Power is great and weight balance is better than any.
hshfarm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2011, 05:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Nitro 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 249
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hshfarm View Post
well the wheel motors are now the same that deere uses. I have no problem with the deere unit, i just think that the rogator deserves some credit. My custom ap man puts 30,000 acres a year on his gators and never welds on the booms. Ever. Keeps them for two years, then trades. Current machine has the 120's. They are definitely not light. Plenty of steel in there for durability and strength. Power is great and weight balance is better than any.
i think you r talking through your ass there
Nitro 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2011, 09:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Southwestern Ont Canada
Posts: 332
Default

I enjoy going in and spraying where Rogators and Deeres can't go into tall crops.With the 2012 Millers now having the All wheel steer it will be a great advantage.I'll take the 1600 ga as well and still be under 30000 lbs.
dougpettman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2011, 11:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Jason Hildebrand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Posts: 2,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hshfarm View Post
Power is great and weight balance is better than any.
Considering Deere made some adjustments to the shape of their tank which puts more weight forward I would challenge you on that statement. I'm pretty sure Miller Nitro or Case sprayer with the rear engine would have the best balance. Wouldn't surprise me if Rogator has worst balance now.
Jason Hildebrand is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:56 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0