Australian Chemical Resistance

[small time operator]

We keep reading here in Australia that we are worst in the world for herbicide resistance anyone got any problems yet?

Myself i rotate chemicals and always tank mix and dont cut rates to save $1 or 2 per ha.

Since ive been using ecopar in my glyphosate knockdown mixes presowing ive alot less escapees particulary ryegrass as 1 and 2 leaf ryegrass can survive glypho but not if mixed with ecopar ive found and yes ive had ryegrass tested.

We have slight group b resistance ie logran in ryegrass that is all, radish still ok brome grass still dying.

We find our biggest bitch of weed is fleabane never saw it until 4 yrs ago.

[madsnake]

Small time can you post the a link to label? The one I found is more a braod leaf in crop chemical when I serched for ecopar.

Do you find it dose a good job on rye grass in front of the seeder?

Fleabane is a new world the wet summer got it going here, people carry on about fleabane not been resistante to steel, have not seen a 100% job yet on worked ground with fleabane.

Madsnake

[gv]

Thats the stuff madsnake. Its not on the label but add oil and it gets hot. Around 100ml/ha + oil. Logan Bpower is also good 15g/ha plus oil excellent on mallows etc.
I find bpower better than ecopar.

[diggora]

Fleabane is widespread in my district, had never seen it till this year. Must have come down from up north last year with the wet weather and set seed while nobody was looking. A mate of mine who does spray/crop trials asked if I had seen any on my place. I had a look and it was about, mostly on driveways and verges but pretty widespread a few lucerne pastures. However the sheep/lambs seem to love it and eat it down to stumps and it doesn't flower. If I put sheep in on 2ft high plants they eat the seed heads - hope its not toxic!

On they resistance front, no glyphosphate resistance but a few paddocks of group A resistance to keep and eye on. Try to rotate chemical modes of action in-crop and run SpraySeed from time to time to keep glyphosphate working. Fortunatley we have markets for cereal hay, domestically to the dairy market in the Goulburn Valley 15km away and export oaten hay 40km to processing plant. Cows milk well on resistant ryegrass hay apparently! Oaten hay two/three years in a row isn't uncommon. Some local farmers who dont have the gear/inclination for the hay job are starting to have some real problems. So bad you can easily see the yeild reductions from the road.

Beacause of the wipeout of the WA hay season this year exporters were/are desperate for hay and were buying wheaten hay also. Had a paddock of wheat absolutey feral with ryegrass, would have yielded 2.5t/ha max and spread ryegrass seed everywhere and been a mess for years to come. Cut it for hay instead, 5t/ha@$180 delivered Goornong plus top ups. A great result I think.

[madsnake]

[QUOTE=diggora;

Beacause of the wipeout of the WA hay season this year exporters were/are desperate for hay and were buying wheaten hay also. Had a paddock of wheat absolutey feral with ryegrass, would have yielded 2.5t/ha max and spread ryegrass seed everywhere and been a mess for years to come. Cut it for hay instead, 5t/ha@$180 delivered Goornong plus top ups. A great result I think.[/QUOTE]

Be good to see what the top ups are out of Goornong we grew oaten hay for them this year for the first time. Hope there good hay has smashed wheat ton for ton in $$ terms this year.

[diggora]

Grown hay for Gilmac since they first set up in Victoria. Excellent operators and great to deal with. Interesting contract set up when compared to grain. Grain contacts expect you to deliver the tons, Gilamc contracts set the tons they will accept delivery of. With respect to top ups, they are the only customers I sell to that if they have a good year pay you extra!

[madsnake]

Gillmac have been relly good to use so far. Hope we can grow them some hay this year, giving that I'm out of Mildura hay is not a ever year crop for use.

Madsnake

[small time operator]

steel and fleabane works for one year only back as thick as **** 10 months later

[small time operator]

sorryi used a h word didnt realize its a bad one

[stevo]

Resistance is getting rife here, logran is almost useless as is glean, MCPA amine and 24d amine are almost useless on radish, radish is now our biggest and baddest weed after overtaking ryegrass for that position. I know of guys not far away that cant kill radish with 6 liters of atrazine and others that ester 800 hardly touches. So yes resistance is here and its nasty. Let the windrow burning, chaff carts, chem fallow, weed destructor, whatever other funky idea begin.

steve