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Old 01-16-2008, 10:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What is your experience with different cutter-bar systems?

We have a 1020 OEM that is wore out and needs a replacement. We were happy with it but there are alot of options out there.

Options (in order of my opinionated preference):

1.) Kingcut by Crary
2.) SCH system with roller guides
3.) Herschel Adams
4.) OEM

Will the SCH roller guides work on other systems? Also what is your preference in your past experiences?! Are air reels worth the investment?

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Old 01-16-2008, 01:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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We had the SCH Easycut (without roller guides) on an old 810. I hated it, but it was really more the header's fault. The leading edge of the header wasn't perfectly straight (Dad said it was like that from the factory) and the extra drag on the knife was tearing up the wobble box. We switched to the SCH hoping to alleviate the strain on the wobble box, but it instead changed the weak point to the cutterbar itself. The bolt-together bar would break in tough conditions, usually at the drive head. Once we got the drive head welded up and stronger it started breaking elsewhere. 2005 was the last year we used that header and the bar broke for the fourth (and last) time that season as I was opening the very last field. It finally broke in a spot where it couldn't be repaired, so we just finished harvest with one machine. The most frustrating part was not being able to go to town and get parts; they all had to be shipped to us. Kind of a pain in the middle of harvest.

That being said, it probably would've been a good cutterbar if it was on a good header. The knives stayed sharp for a long time (they certainly lasted longer than the ones on our 973 MacDon) and they were easy to replace when needed. It also cut very cleanly in tough conditions.
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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We installed a SCH system on our NH 2450 windrower with a dble. drive 14' head after talking to our neighbor who runs one on his TR99 w/ a 20' flex. Absolutely loved it. Increased our cutting speed by 2 mph. It breaks guards and knives at the same rate as the old OEM setup, but were also going 2 mph faster too. It doesn't gum up nearly as bad as the old cutterbar. The roller guides are absolutely reliable, haven't changed one yet. The cutterbar is so much quieter and vibration free than the OEM. Our cutterbar on our 1020 is wore out and were switching to the SCH bar after wheat to do soybeans this year. SI Dist. is very good to work with for parts. As long as you keep a few extra parts on hand and don't deplete your inventory, i wouldn't think about any other cutting system.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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tim8200, I was looking at one for my mower conditioner, was your windrower plugging in the rock guards prior to installing the SCH system?
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the only time it would plug is if you were in down, very matted, wet crop, especially clover-grass mix. alfalfa wasn't as much of a problem however. The SCH bar just devours everything in front of it. It's like No Fear Hay Mowing!
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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hey factoryfarmer, where in regards to Geneseo, Illinois is Lee County. I just was in Illinois to look at some equipment at AC McCartney on my way to Iowa to look at some more. That's some nice looking farmland out there compared to up here in New York.
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Quote:the only time it would plug is if you were in down, very matted, wet crop, especially clover-grass mix. alfalfa wasn't as much of a problem however. The SCH bar just devours everything in front of it. It's like No Fear Hay Mowing!

I the clover is so fine it does not seem to cut well. Even the alfalfa is really hard to cut.

Geneseo is a little bit west and south of here. What are you looking at all the way out here? Let me guess are they all out of equipment in New York also It's really crazy around here. We bought a 3710 plow today and there was three guys lined up behind us to buy it
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