three things that ruined rural america

[DoubleChinRooster]

let's face it. the blueprint to have prosperous rural communities in the west has failed. our western leaders are a bunch of corporate slime bags whom want us all living in a big city with a microchip implanted in our arm.

1. bailouts for farmers after the 1980's farm crisis - after the 1980's farm crisis a bunch of farmers wined until they got their massive debts forgiven. i know of a lot of local farmers whom received these bailouts and now they are the powerhouses of the neighborhood. my uncles clung to their well-balanced farm that consisted of dairy, beef, alfalfa, small grains and row crop to make it thru the tough times and did not receive a bailout. my uncles are doing fine today but not filthy rich like the bailed out farmers.


2. foreign people(primarily europeans) buying land in america - europeans began buying land in america for cheap after the 1980's farm crisis. now, they are some of the large powerhouses in the neighborhood also. i think it's a shame when foreigners have the money and desire to buy OUR LAND and farm it but we don't. something doesn't make sense about this. almost like americas leaders are too busy making deals with the devil to allow the rural areas to prosper

3. bonnefield - this company, probably secretly owned by the chinese, is coming into america now. this makes me think the rest of us, who have made it thru all the tough times, will be wiped out. i think our devious polititcians have drawn up a plan behind closed doors to eradicate what's left of rural america. i just wish for once in our life we would see a farm plan that is designed to promote rural population growth

[711bert]

Originally Posted by DoubleChinRooster

let's face it. the blueprint to have prosperous rural communities in the west has failed. our western leaders are a bunch of corporate slime bags whom want us all living in a big city with a microchip implanted in our arm.

1. bailouts for farmers after the 1980's farm crisis - after the 1980's farm crisis a bunch of farmers wined until they got their massive debts forgiven. i know of a lot of local farmers whom received these bailouts and now they are the powerhouses of the neighborhood. my uncles clung to their well-balanced farm that consisted of dairy, beef, alfalfa, small grains and row crop to make it thru the tough times and did not receive a bailout. my uncles are doing fine today but not filthy rich like the bailed out farmers.


2. foreign people(primarily europeans) buying land in america - europeans began buying land in america for cheap after the 1980's farm crisis. now, they are some of the large powerhouses in the neighborhood also. i think it's a shame when foreigners have the money and desire to buy OUR LAND and farm it but we don't. something doesn't make sense about this. almost like americas leaders are too busy making deals with the devil to allow the rural areas to prosper

3. bonnefield - this company, probably secretly owned by the chinese, is coming into america now. this makes me think the rest of us, who have made it thru all the tough times, will be wiped out. i think our devious polititcians have drawn up a plan behind closed doors to eradicate what's left of rural america. i just wish for once in our life we would see a farm plan that is designed to promote rural population growth

#2 you serious?
you call it YOUR LAND, well nothing is your land, what you farm is your land, your neighbours land is another story.
What you think the main goal is for the europeans coming to america, they have the same desire as your grandparents did way back in the days. Sure some come with money but not all, and they all have the same intention as you don't worry, they didn't come all the way out to america just to piss you off.

[farmer 4 ever]

Do the same thing double chin rooster and buy land in europe. I saw a study in a conference 2 days ago and land in france is now cheaper than in North america for comparable yield. It's always easy to complain about the neigbours and government for what we don't have.

[ih4life]

Originally Posted by DoubleChinRooster

let's face it. the blueprint to have prosperous rural communities in the west has failed. our western leaders are a bunch of corporate slime bags whom want us all living in a big city with a microchip implanted in our arm.

1. bailouts for farmers after the 1980's farm crisis - after the 1980's farm crisis a bunch of farmers wined until they got their massive debts forgiven. i know of a lot of local farmers whom received these bailouts and now they are the powerhouses of the neighborhood. my uncles clung to their well-balanced farm that consisted of dairy, beef, alfalfa, small grains and row crop to make it thru the tough times and did not receive a bailout. my uncles are doing fine today but not filthy rich like the bailed out farmers.


2. foreign people(primarily europeans) buying land in america - europeans began buying land in america for cheap after the 1980's farm crisis. now, they are some of the large powerhouses in the neighborhood also. i think it's a shame when foreigners have the money and desire to buy OUR LAND and farm it but we don't. something doesn't make sense about this. almost like americas leaders are too busy making deals with the devil to allow the rural areas to prosper

3. bonnefield - this company, probably secretly owned by the chinese, is coming into america now. this makes me think the rest of us, who have made it thru all the tough times, will be wiped out. i think our devious polititcians have drawn up a plan behind closed doors to eradicate what's left of rural america. i just wish for once in our life we would see a farm plan that is designed to promote rural population growth

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[wheatworld]

Originally Posted by DoubleChinRooster

let's face it. the blueprint to have prosperous rural communities in the west has failed. our western leaders are a bunch of corporate slime bags whom want us all living in a big city with a microchip implanted in our arm.

1. bailouts for farmers after the 1980's farm crisis - after the 1980's farm crisis a bunch of farmers wined until they got their massive debts forgiven. i know of a lot of local farmers whom received these bailouts and now they are the powerhouses of the neighborhood. my uncles clung to their well-balanced farm that consisted of dairy, beef, alfalfa, small grains and row crop to make it thru the tough times and did not receive a bailout. my uncles are doing fine today but not filthy rich like the bailed out farmers.


2. foreign people(primarily europeans) buying land in america - europeans began buying land in america for cheap after the 1980's farm crisis. now, they are some of the large powerhouses in the neighborhood also. i think it's a shame when foreigners have the money and desire to buy OUR LAND and farm it but we don't. something doesn't make sense about this. almost like americas leaders are too busy making deals with the devil to allow the rural areas to prosper

3. bonnefield - this company, probably secretly owned by the chinese, is coming into america now. this makes me think the rest of us, who have made it thru all the tough times, will be wiped out. i think our devious polititcians have drawn up a plan behind closed doors to eradicate what's left of rural america. i just wish for once in our life we would see a farm plan that is designed to promote rural population growth

You're correct about those who have received FmHA write-downs being very successful today. Those who received write-downs were prohibited from using FmHA/FSA Ag Credit programs ever again. The begining farmer loans, interest assistance programs, direct loans, and participating loans that many farmers qualify for are off limits for those with a write-down in their history. Those farmers capitalized on the opportunity to take full advantage of the FmHA at one time.

Many of those same farmers deal with payment limitations today. AMTA payments cap at 40K and disaster payments cap at 100K. The 2008 disaster payment cut many farmers off at 100K when they qualified for many times more than that. When Obama's stimulus package added to that 2008 disaster payment, many farmers didn't qualify because they already hit the 100K limit.

I'm personally against all gov't payments and gov't participation in crop insurance, but just wanted to point out how those folks with write-downs have paid for it ever since with no gov't loan help and limited farm program payments.

[Bruce Avison]

All I'm seeing is the white man ruined himself.

You don't want bailouts don't take them. You don't want foreigners don't let them in. You don't want multinational corporations, don't buy their products, stock, or support them.

Turns out, I'm 1 man on a rock of 6+ billion other folks. Lots of crap happens that I don't like. Why is World Aid, UNISEF, and other groups collecting money for people in India when India can afford a space program?

No sense in worrying about the past, it repeats itself no matter how hard we fight it.

Bruce

[garyfunk]

I didn't know rural America was in ruins.

[DoubleChinRooster]

Originally Posted by garyfunk

I didn't know rural America was in ruins.

have u driven across rural america(off the interstate) these days? the towns under 1,000 people look like a great depression

Originally Posted by Bruce Avison

All I'm seeing is the white man ruined himself.

You don't want bailouts don't take them. You don't want foreigners don't let them in. You don't want multinational corporations, don't buy their products, stock, or support them.

Turns out, I'm 1 man on a rock of 6+ billion other folks. Lots of crap happens that I don't like. Why is World Aid, UNISEF, and other groups collecting money for people in India when India can afford a space program?

No sense in worrying about the past, it repeats itself no matter how hard we fight it.

Bruce

bruce, not doing business with a large corporation is a non-effective method these days due to bailouts. hate wallmart or wells fargo? u can take it to the bank they will get bailed out if we all stop doing business with them and they go broke. how does the common man win when corruption in the west is at an all-time high and the sheeple won't wake up and rebel?

Originally Posted by farmer 4 ever

Do the same thing double chin rooster and buy land in europe. I saw a study in a conference 2 days ago and land in france is now cheaper than in North america for comparable yield. It's always easy to complain about the neigbours and government for what we don't have.

it's not that easy to just up and move to another country, especially to farm. got to learn a new culture, language, etc...ever heard of culture shock? it can stun u and if it doesn't stun you it will stun one of your kids or your spouse. if we did migrate to another part of the world, i would NEVER go to a western country. i would go to the far east, middle east or south/central america. feminism has taken it's toll on our system in the west. the "mother knows best" philosophy is a recipe for disaster IMO. i am arming myself getting ready for one final battle against the gun grabbers and i don't have many allies here in the west

Originally Posted by 711bert

#2 you serious?
you call it YOUR LAND, well nothing is your land, what you farm is your land, your neighbours land is another story.
What you think the main goal is for the europeans coming to america, they have the same desire as your grandparents did way back in the days. Sure some come with money but not all, and they all have the same intention as you don't worry, they didn't come all the way out to america just to piss you off.

actually it is our land because we pay taxes to the military and the military won this land from the indians so we should want to make the most of our tax dollars and blood lost, shouldn't we? why give our land away?...and my point was that our country was haywire at some point(1980's) because how can there be no interest or money left to keep the american farmer on this land. that same american farmer whom has been paying in to the military to protect his farm. yes there is immigration and that's how we got here but we can close the doors whenever we want to. we pay our taxes to have this land protected, we should benefit from it. did the europeans whom came here in the late 80's/early 90's pay for the wars/military protection prior to that? nope. think about the folks whom homesteaded in the late early 1900's. they have paid numerous taxes over the years to have their land protected. then, they go broke and some foreigner comes in and buys their land. sounds like bad government to me, intervention or no intervention. whether u believe it or not, government controls everything, even if they do nothing.

[wheatworld]

Originally Posted by garyfunk

I didn't know rural America was in ruins.

It's not. Rural America is doing very good and in many cases better than ever. Fossil fuel based energy along with the industries that support ag and energy are also doing very well in America.

Threads like this usually sprout up because of jealousy. In farming rural America, it's best to deal with our own conditions, good or bad, and make the best of them.

[oldbrownsierra]

Wow DCR this is one of the biggest feel sorry for yourself threads you have had yet. Instead of feeling sorry for yourself, why don't you go do something to yourself, than complain about why the government is helping everyone but you.