What to do with china construction machinery ?

[Haystack]

No, to be honest Lynn I use many items from China that are of fine quality. I suspect they were engineered elsewhere and have what you would consider a foreign company in charge of quality control. Pirated copies of designs don't seem to have the same quality that I expect for my money.

If you care to post a delivery address for your office I could send you some problematic products of this nature. For example, some wire strippers that are stamped and assembled backwards, windshield frost scrapers that shatter when it's FROSTY, or the plumbing drain components that I have to tear my house up again to remove and dispose of. Or, worst of all, the nice new wooden toilet seat that shattered the first time I parked my boney a$$ on it and dropped me in the hole.

It's only junk if it doesn't work properly, like your link wouldn't.
I just believe everything needs to be tested properly before it is produced.
You just set your own trap because you have never paid the price of no testing. I have paid the price.

Again, it's not all bad but it's not all good.

[tbone95]

Originally Posted by lynnwong

tbone95, you just follow the herd, and have no judgement. It seems that you are very enjoying seeing people in miserable.

Gee, thanks. Right, I've never dealt with anything made in China? You would be totally "wong".

I'll put your opinion of me right on top of that list I was always going to make.

[tbone95]

Originally Posted by lynnwong

By the way, I need advise, not complaint !

You want advice? For starters:

Test your products under conditions they will actually be used in, by someone who has actually used a comparable product before.

Don't steal other peoples designs. Engineer on your own accord, incur the costs, and get your product on the market fairly.

Pay your people a wage that gives them a quality of life someone from somewhere else in the world would actually want to have.

Take care of your land and resources.

Float your currency on the fair global market like we have to, and see how "cheap" your stuff really is.

In short, play by ALL the same rules we do, see how you stack up.

Do all this, and we'll talk.

[Heegees Ag]

Originally Posted by handswithoutshadow

I frequent a lot of forums and have seen a lot of company reps on said forums.

Lynn Wong: you are the most unprofessional low quality company rep I have ever seen. And the only rep who I have ever seen directly insult someone. I can only assume your equipment is of the same caliber as you. Crappy.

If that is true maybe Lynn should find a tree and some rope you are a cheat and liar and companies represented with folks like you well they will not survive long term
Chinese people as a whole are too smart for you to call yourself one of them

[Haystack]

Now now, don't be giving away anymore western ideas, like going to the park. They are just nicely getting the catch nets affixed to the sides of the office buildings.

[2miletom]

Wow. There is a lot of underlying resentment on this fourum towards the chinese.

Why is that?

Is it because they made some cheap junk? I have seen a lot of cheap junk Union made in the USA as well fellas. Its cheap, and you cant make it in the USA for that price.

Is it because of their currency? I dont even get that comment? Pretty sure the Chinese own more American debt than anyone else. 1.14 Trillion of the 14trillion debt you have.

Because they steal other peoples designs? Wow. No one has ever done that before. Look at the big Three car manufacturers. Read the history of the auto industry. Lots of idea theft happened and still happens. Just look at the ag industry.

I am sorry. No one in North America can live without the Chinese. There are over a billion of them. They need what we have and vise versa.

This whole thread stinks of bigotry.

For the record. Lynnwong is a troller. But, there have been many trolls on this site pushing products. I just cannot recall one being treated in this kind of manner.

Combine forumers, we are better than this. Sheesh.

2mile

[farmerleach]

Originally Posted by Haystack

Or, worst of all, the nice new wooden toilet seat that shattered the first time I parked my boney a$$ on it and dropped me in the hole.

Talk about a s***y deal, hopefully it wasn't in your out house

[tbone95]

Originally Posted by 2miletom

Wow. There is a lot of underlying resentment on this fourum towards the chinese.

Why is that?

Is it because they made some cheap junk? I have seen a lot of cheap junk Union made in the USA as well fellas. Its cheap, and you cant make it in the USA for that price.

Is it because of their currency? I dont even get that comment? Pretty sure the Chinese own more American debt than anyone else. 1.14 Trillion of the 14trillion debt you have.

Because they steal other peoples designs? Wow. No one has ever done that before. Look at the big Three car manufacturers. Read the history of the auto industry. Lots of idea theft happened and still happens. Just look at the ag industry.

I am sorry. No one in North America can live without the Chinese. There are over a billion of them. They need what we have and vise versa.

This whole thread stinks of bigotry.

For the record. Lynnwong is a troller. But, there have been many trolls on this site pushing products. I just cannot recall one being treated in this kind of manner.

Combine forumers, we are better than this. Sheesh.

2mile

Chinese currency is propped up by their government in a few ways, and I can't begin to do it justice on here. This isn't bigotry, it is fact though. Research a little on it, you can trade dollars to Euro and many others, but there is no market for yuan. The question was for "advice", and since I work in manufacturing (and export to China of all places), this makes for unfair competition. So does one country having to manufacture under regulations, say for environmental protection, but another does not. That's fine with me if they want to ruin their environment, but if USA has a regulation against a certain substance to be used in mfg, even though it is cheaper than an alternative, then we should not buy a product with it in use made somewhere else. This is just scratching the surface of many many examples.

The Chinese are the largest foreign holders of our debt, but not the largest holders of our debt. We ourselves are. Though the amount they own is significant / important.

I know a man who worked within a partnership of a Chinese and USA company where some of the Chinese stuff was being imported and put into a system with the American stuff. He caught the Chinese guy copying huge amounts of documentation on the American stuff and sending it to China. He told the guy that was not in the agreement and was against the law. Chinese guy replied, "Those are American laws, not Chinese" and threatened the guy I know. (Who is now in protection while this is still going on in court) Again, I'm only scratching the surface. Wake up, this is going on all over the country.

I realize American companies can produce junk too. Sometimes, it is just because the price has been driven down so bad. I know these are forces beyond my control, but I do what I can.

If you didn't undersand my currency comment, I'm sorry. In my industrial publications (Manufacturing Engineering, Industry Week, Cutting Tool Engineering, Business Week, and many more) it is a very important issue, and it an unfair way to judge American Competitiveness.

He is a troll, but I give 'im credit, he came back and posted.

[lynnwong]

If you want to be respected, you have to respect others first. I never intend to hurt anyone, let alone insult. If you felt that you had been hurt, i have to say i am sorry and i apoligize. But i think you should learn to respect and try not to attack.

[lynnwong]

It is so strange that you call chinese products junks. The most confusing one is that if they are junks, why they are welcomed in your countries? Could you explain it ? I am here not talking about polities, so please don't talk about the currency. I hope you alll see that Chinese are working very hard and they deserve what they have now or in the future. why are you so sure chinese pirated your design, in the contrast, most fashinon designers and movie makers are making money from adding china characteristics into their products. I think you all know intellectul property and patent, so apply one to protect your design. And we will, too.

Things are developing, we should have development vision too. If you are just too absorbed in the past, you will be the past.