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any capacity differences 2012-2014 S series to 2015-16?

Deere ads claim the hydraulic concave gives 10% more capacity at same loss and up to 20% more capacity when tough. New dyna flow 2 cleaning fan adds 10% more capacity at same loss. So real life numbers in the field, is a 2015-2016 S680 or S690 doing 20-30% more capacity at low losses than the 2012-2014 years?


Would like to trade off my 9870, but would like something that consistently does 30-50% more capacity. Harvest peas, barley, spring wheat and canola. Usually dry conditions at harvest, but lots of straw. Irrigation in Alberta.

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Of course not.
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That would mean it does 50-70% more than a 9870. Not a chance. Maybe they were talking about the increase in payments.
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Deere ads claim the hydraulic concave gives 10% more capacity at same loss and up to 20% more capacity when tough. New dyna flow 2 cleaning fan adds 10% more capacity at same loss. So real life numbers in the field, is a 2015-2016 S680 or S690 doing 20-30% more capacity at low losses than the 2012-2014 years?


Would like to trade off my 9870, but would like something that consistently does 30-50% more capacity. Harvest peas, barley, spring wheat and canola. Usually dry conditions at harvest, but lots of straw. Irrigation in Alberta.
30-50% is asking a lot of any combine, even a large Claas or NH would struggle to attain your goals. I would recommend a S690 (because of straw) and expect 20% over your current 9870.

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How does a hydraulic concave add capacity? Is it preventing plugs or breakdowns, or is it allowing a wider setting when more material enters while still keeping a tighter clearance for lighter crop? I'm kind of thinking wheat here where threshing is needed, doubt canola would be affected by clearance.

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I think that falls under the "ram more product through ability" rather than actual reduced losses.
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I was hoping someone here has run a newer model and can comment. Finding it hard to justify the asking prices for new combines, without showing more capacity. Lots of talk about how good the claas and new Holland are, but no dealers within 2 hours of me.


Have a case combine and an old 9870 now and would like to upgrade. The feeder house on the case is a joke and the early S series deeres were very poor performing machines locally. Was hoping the later model S series were better.
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The active combine isolation and feeder house improvements of the 15 and newer machine with tough crop package make it a completely different combine than the 12-14's. The hydraulic suspended concaves make a massive difference in the threshing ability in tough straw with cereals and bunches of canola, in terms of maintaining a consistent concave clearance, while also allowing the machine to "give" when large wads are fed through that would otherwise blow a sheer bolt. In 16 the extended sieve also makes a big difference.

All the love for the New Holland elevation rotors and Lexions is great, but if you get the chance its worth it to try out a new S-Series. You would be pleasantly surprised.
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The active combine isolation and feeder house improvements of the 15 and newer machine with tough crop package make it a completely different combine than the 12-14's. The hydraulic suspended concaves make a massive difference in the threshing ability in tough straw with cereals and bunches of canola, in terms of maintaining a consistent concave clearance, while also allowing the machine to "give" when large wads are fed through that would otherwise blow a sheer bolt. In 16 the extended sieve also makes a big difference.

All the love for the New Holland elevation rotors and Lexions is great, but if you get the chance its worth it to try out a new S-Series. You would be pleasantly surprised.
I have a 2012 with the dual zone chaffer. I'm sure the new ones are a bit better but not worth 200k diff from my 12 to a 15? and even more to a 16?? Yikes
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I went from a 9870 to a 2015 S680. The hydraulic con caves make a huge difference when it comes to slugging material through. I am not throwing over near as much grain with this one as I was with the 9870 and I am putting a lot more product into the combine this year with the larger crop. I don't believe I have gained enough in acres per hour to warrant the expense of the combine. I think with the way the 15 S680 performs I am physically and mentally better at the end of the day. Constantly hammering straw through the 9870 was very tiring. I did chip the 680 as it was constantly pulling down on power and that made a huge difference on power and fuel. I farm 4200 acres and went from 2 older combines to 1 combine. I am still satisfied that this was the right choice.

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