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S690 2017 performance

Hi fellow farmers!

I am new to this, so excuse if lacking.

I farm in South Africa Western Cape, wheat, barley and canola is my winter grains. Have been running S670's and fed up with the usual rotor loss under high flow problems. Need more capacity and speed. Looking to swath 70 feet with yields normally around 4t/ha. I am very loyal to my green brand and my whole fleet is green since forever.

I know that pre 2016 the John Deere S series still came up short. So Claas came to visit me with their Lexion 770's. Looks like a very productive harvester but not comfortable with the support and moving my relationship with green.

Ordered some S690's with "new 2017 spec" for what that's worth, thinking that at our yields picking 70feet at around 8km/h there will be no real difference between Lexion and John Deere seeing that the crop flow isn't that big, so Lexion will be under utilised and I can keep my green friends...

What is your thoughts??

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Hi fellow farmers!

I am new to this, so excuse if lacking.

I farm in South Africa Western Cape, wheat, barley and canola is my winter grains. Have been running S670's and fed up with the usual rotor loss under high flow problems. Need more capacity and speed. Looking to swath 70 feet with yields normally around 4t/ha. I am very loyal to my green brand and my whole fleet is green since forever.

I know that pre 2016 the John Deere S series still came up short. So Claas came to visit me with their Lexion 770's. Looks like a very productive harvester but not comfortable with the support and moving my relationship with green.

Ordered some S690's with "new 2017 spec" for what that's worth, thinking that at our yields picking 70feet at around 8km/h there will be no real difference between Lexion and John Deere seeing that the crop flow isn't that big, so Lexion will be under utilised and I can keep my green friends...

What is your thoughts??

i'm interested in the 70ft part...double swathed, or 70ft header?

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It'd be interesting to see the claas vs the new 690s.

But if you're not willing to consider changing, then with respect aren't you kinda beholden to what you know/Deere regardless of if they're any better than before?

When do the new toy(s) arrive?
Either way I hope they work well for you and look forward to hearing your thoughts
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690 and 670 have same rotor and concaves so how is it going to be any better? Apart from having HP to jam more stuff in there and then still lose it............
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i'm interested in the 70ft part...double swathed, or 70ft header?
Me too, especially with 4 t/ha crops and 8 km/hr!

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Me too, especially with 4 t/ha crops and 8 km/hr!
Maybe the plan is 2 t/ha in the bin and 2 t/ha for the wildlife to pick up.
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Boerseun, install 4 of AXE44522. You will have to pull your factory separator grates out and replace with these. They will eliminate most rotor loss. They also bolt right in and are a JD part so you don't have to modify anything. I will tell you if you order your machines with the VARIABLE TRISTREAM ROTOR these components are already installed. Also there is a very aggressive feed accelerator with combed floor you can put in. In my opinion I can out perform any TRISTREAM ROTOR(bullet rotor) with the VARIABLE TRISTREAM ROTOR. I don't farm edibles though and can be pretty aggressive with my threshing. There is also some threshing tines that go between the threshing elements on the rotor that will help separate.
Be careful of the Lexion trap. There are a lot of folks on the Gulf Coast of Texas scratching their heads wondering where their support went when Lexion and Holt Cat split ways. Seems like when farming is good Cat wants in but as soon as it hits a rough patch they're out. John Deere seems to stay with you through thick and thin even though they are by no means perfect at least they are there for you.
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There are a lot of folks on the Gulf Coast of Texas scratching their heads wondering where their support went when Lexion and Holt Cat split ways. Seems like when farming is good Cat wants in but as soon as it hits a rough patch they're out.
Exactly, but when Finning (Caterpillar agency in Alberta) pulled the pin and other dealers were put in place (existing actual agriculture dealers) it is a far better setup now.

It's always a tough decision to move away from a long term relationship with either a dealer or manufacturer, you have to weigh other potential advantages while potentially leaving your "friends".
Glad I took the leap of faith, I have a lot of Claas bitches but the high capacity and high grain retention wins all for me, dealer is good, I'm happy.
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Exactly, but when Finning (Caterpillar agency in Alberta) pulled the pin and other dealers were put in place (existing actual agriculture dealers) it is a far better setup now.

It's always a tough decision to move away from a long term relationship with either a dealer or manufacturer, you have to weigh other potential advantages while potentially leaving your "friends".
Glad I took the leap of faith, I have a lot of Claas bitches but the high capacity and high grain retention wins all for me, dealer is good, I'm happy.
You got any pics of the Claas bitches?

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You got any pics of the Claas bitches?

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Ha ha, doubt they're in the train of thought you're on on a Friday afternoon.

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