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What to look for in a 9610

Im the market to purchase a new to me combine and interested in 9610. I have found one that looks to be in good shape, it has 4600 engine and 3600 separator hours. It is at a local Deere dealer and they spent roughly 8K on it this winter fixing some engine oil leaks, new beater belts, filters and oil. I have read on here a bunch on the 9600/9610 but I dont have much experiance with them and I'm looking for info on what to look for on them.

It comes with a 930R which I would run for a while but would like to upgrade that to a draper in the future.

I raise mostly wheat, average year 35 bushels and acre and on a rare good year 60. I should add I have a 1000 acres to cut and raise mostly wheat and now getting into the pulse crops with peas and lentils.

Any info on them would be great!

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I am near Shelby MT and have a 9650 walker for sale with 936D header. Header has an ag shield pea auger installed. Spent around $16,000 this winter on it at the dealer just to help sell it by making sure the buyer knows it is ready to go. So, more ready than from a dealer. Trust me on this one. I used to be a tech at a dealer. New walkers, new feeder chain, some belts, chopper knives, ect ect.. Shoot me an offer. It has been an excellent combine. Just need bigger. I cut around 3500-4000 of my own and help my dad if possible. I bought an 8120 case and do not need to keep this one. I have trouble finding enough good help as it is.

If you know Brandon Flynn near the Townsend area feel free to ask about me. We went to college together.

For a 9610 things to check. Run it for 1/2 hr of so. Just let it sit and run. Check for noises, vibrations, cracks, hot bearings, anything that seems strange. There are some plugs for engine timing and turning on the flywheel housing. Pull a plug and check for oil. I have pulled many engines because of rear seal leaks on 9600 and 9610s. Look at grain tank from below looking for holes. They wear and rust. Wheel bearings, spindle bearings... Check all oil levels and check for leaks. You will want the larger lift cylinders for 36ft draper header. (Mine has them) That many hours it can have any problem really. Better have it inspected by a good tech. Worth the paying $500 or so just to do this before you buy it.

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Inspected: INDEED! I recently bought a 9500 with similar hours. Combine looked extremely clean, many things replaced, not a ding on it. Took it to the dealers for inspection AFTER I purchased it and .... $16000 worth of repairs later I now have a usable combine. Yes, the unloading augers had been replaced, but not timed or aligned and all the splines were shot again.... I thought I knew combines pretty well but this one bit me.
Augers, grain pans, any oil leaks, walkers, run the unloader too (I did not). Check the variable speed pulleys for play between the sheaves. If the walkers still have the aluminum bearing blocks, you will need to change them to wood. And go check out the above!

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Other things to check:
1. Straw walker bearings. Lift and see how much slop they have. *need to be greased daily
2. Straw walkers for cracks and holes. Usually cracked at rear bearing mount. Get someone to turn it over and check with flashlight. Walkers wear thin on rear sides where the plastic wear strips run.

3. Look at the straw walker drive gearcase wen running. If it wobbles the mount bolt has came loose and the taper on the front walker crankshaft is shot.

4. Check beater, beater grate, beater curtain. Nobody seems to want to climb in and check them till it starts ripping the front of the walkers apart.

5. Make sure there is actually oil in the cylinder dual range gearcase if it has one.

6. Feederhouse floor for wear holes.

I'm sure there is more.

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Is this the 9610 sitting at Frontline in Great Falls?

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If you know Brandon Flynn near the Townsend area feel free to ask about me. We went to college together.
Wow, small world. Brandon farms right across the fence from us.
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Is this the 9610 sitting at Frontline in Great Falls?



Wow, small world. Brandon farms right across the fence from us.
Yes, 9610 in Great Falls.

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if you are thinking about going into pulses make sure the combine has a dual speed cylinder. absolutely essential for peas. also if gearing up for pulses make sure that the cross augers in the hopper have restrictor plates. peas and lentils are so heavy that if allowed to unload at full speed you will keep breaking sheer pins on the unload auger.


as mentioned in other posts the walker bearings..... make sure whoever had it before wasn't stingy with the grease!!!! we had a front one go out years ago, found out that the recommendations in the manual were way low. we pretty much put a tube of grease into the walkers every day...... haven't had any trouble since.


they are pretty well made combines, but at that hours and age there will be some stuff to fix, no two ways about it. you say you are mostly winter wheat on a 1000 ac so it will be lots of combine, but I will make 2 comments for you with regards to class 6 conventionals. we run a 9610 and a 9760. in the heavy cereal crops we had this year, the 9760 sts literally doubled the 9610 in capacity, dockage off the rotary is less than half, as well as less cracks in the pulses being lower too.
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... in the heavy cereal crops we had this year, the 9760 sts literally doubled the 9610 in capacity, dockage off the rotary is less than half, as well as less cracks in the pulses being lower too.
Curious what you see for dockage on both 9760 and 9610 for crops/yields.
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When the walkers were replaced I had the wood blocks installed in mine. Just an FYI. Will come with Trimble FMX for yield and moisture mapping. Name a price? I can only say no.

Looked at Frontline website. You are going to want to look at mine. I could only get $27K for mine to trade with the header. They wouldn't even look at it, just gave a price. That is why I kept it.

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Curious what you see for dockage on both 9760 and 9610 for crops/yields.
in fields where both combines were running bins came back around 1.5-2% in durum. bins from the days I only had the 9760 running were 1(and remember its threshing most of the grain). don't really have a conventional only sample aside from a really weedy field I sent it over alone one day. but from years back when it was just the 960 2% was usual. Some would be the operator too - I usually am on the big combine, leave the old one for when I have an extra helper around. but it is harder to get a nice sample out (white heads).


As far as capacity the design of the unload augers is where a lot is lost. I was helping a client a few years ago (t670 and a couple s680s. the 670 had a smaller header of course but could keep up until we unloaded. same with our combines. if I unload first I will be half full bf truck ever leaves the field after catching the 9610

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