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Planting canola with valmar and harrows

I was wondering if anyone has planted canola using a valmar and harrows. I'm only seeding 400acres, I use liquid fertilizer so was planing on running my seeder through it first to get fertilizer in the ground the harrowing in seed followed by rollers. Any help would be appreciated thanks

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People do it but it's not the most ideal way to do it, usually only done under desperate cicumstances. Germination will be sporatic and uneven unless nice rain falls follow right after and it doesn't get too hot or dry right after. Dad did it once years ago with limited success . Some guys did it here for a few years when it was too wet to get on the ground with a drill and had good luck but it stayed wet for a week or more right after they did it. If it was up to me, I would tell you to use your drill.

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Hello and welcome to the forum. I will begin by asking you the same question I ask all the time: Location please!!!

That aside, I have done this a few times when really wet here. I think the key is to get some wet conditions right after to germinate the seed and that the soil is sufficiently wet enough to stay wet long enough to get it established.

My suggestion if you are to do it is to use a shatter resistant variety like L140P or L233P so that if it does come up in stages it is easier to manage at harvest.

Canola likes phosphate so might need to get some of that spread too? Might pay for some custom spreading if you can get it all done at once(seed and fert).

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I agree with Kevlar. If u can get in with an air drill your better off. Although last year we got caught out in the rain on the last quarter of canola and after 5" of rain in 10 days I floated on the canola and fertilizer all at once. Rented the neighbors vertical tiller to work it in. And it turned out 10X better than I thought it would. I did get some timely rains the weeks after but I was pleasantly surprised how good it turned out. If u can rent a VT tool set it about an inch deep should turn out better than harrowed in.
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I'm in southern Alberta, I'm just taking over the farm we usually grow barley but I have lots because of the low prices. I was going to try something different our seeder is to old to seed at a shallow depth.
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Your yield goal is important to answer this question too. I have seen it where it yielded the same or better than the most expensive drill in the world.

The main point is that most years you will be leaving potential on the table. Harrowing canola is a good back up plan for those really wet years.
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What kind of seeder ya got?

Most times I have thought deeper was better than too shallow. If you have light packing pressure I don't see why you couldn't run an inch or even slightly deeper.

If you have access to a phenix rotary harrow it would be worth a try if you were comfortable waiting to seed right before rain. It would be a hands down better bet then a typical harrow

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If you are going to broadcast do it before you put your fertilizer in with the airseeder. The movement of the dirt from the airseeder and the harrowing after the airseeder will all help you to cover the canola with soil. Canola left on top of soil often does not grow or germinates and dies.
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Canola can germinate even when seeded a little on the deeper side. I would take my chances with the drill over the harrows any day.
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I have a John Deere 1820 35' air drill

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