Self Leveling Shoe

orangeguy · 02-18-2011, 06:51 PM

Does the cleaning fan move with the shoe, if not, how is air flow kept even?

bleedred · 02-18-2011, 07:15 PM

Yes it does. There is a whole assembly that swings underneathe the machine that keeps the shoe level.

orangeguy · 02-18-2011, 07:43 PM

How is the grain distributed evenly over the shoe in hill side operation?

farmerjones · 02-18-2011, 11:05 PM

With the "active grain pane" up front instead of conveyor augers, in side hills it's not evenly distributed, along with the return throwing it all to one side. This is a significant problem with the design.

bleedred · 02-19-2011, 10:46 AM

Yep. And its not a no brainer to get the material evenly distributed on flat ground either! You have to do some tweaking with the rotor cage position from side to side (pinch point) and tipping the leveling system a degree or two to the left to help this. And its VERY finicky about this. The front right module does a vast majority of the threshing so the pan gets heavily loaded in that one spot. It then needs to get evenly spread out before it hits the sieves which are too short anyway... You can go from working great to puking out the back in a split second in my experience.

orangeguy · 02-19-2011, 12:54 PM

So where the advantage to the self level shoe?

midwest · 02-19-2011, 05:50 PM

I've run 8010's for years and now an 8120. I grow mainly corn. I really have no complaints about the sieves in the combine.
Run the right concave modules...... in the right place.
Run with the bottom sieve OPEN, and clean with the top sieve.
Run the pre-sieve in notch 3 or 4 (I think that's where it's at).
The one drawback I see to the way the system works is with the yield monitor, when going up and down hills it is not the most accurate.

farminflyboy · 02-19-2011, 09:16 PM

doesnt the pan tilt with the whole cleaning system?

dustmaker · 02-19-2011, 10:00 PM

The grain pan tilts with the shoe. It is all part of the self leveling system

farmerjones · 02-19-2011, 10:27 PM

Forget corn....that's easy. Try to get it to distribute all the material evenly in small grains with high chaff loads. It works great some days, then terrible the next. Bleedred has it right...way to picky on how it works. And it most certainly thrashes unevenly. When we changed out our wheat concaves for corn on a 2.5 year old machine some of the rasp bars were COMPLETELY wore off....like gone! Totally uneven wear, and yes, it was all leveled out properly.

02-18-2011, 06:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
orangeguy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 335	Self Leveling Shoe Does the cleaning fan move with the shoe, if not, how is air flow kept even?

02-18-2011, 07:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
bleedred Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ECIA Posts: 848	Yes it does. There is a whole assembly that swings underneathe the machine that keeps the shoe level.

02-18-2011, 07:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
orangeguy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 335	How is the grain distributed evenly over the shoe in hill side operation?

02-18-2011, 11:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
farmerjones Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SW Iowa Posts: 1,726	With the "active grain pane" up front instead of conveyor augers, in side hills it's not evenly distributed, along with the return throwing it all to one side. This is a significant problem with the design.

02-19-2011, 10:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
bleedred Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ECIA Posts: 848	Yep. And its not a no brainer to get the material evenly distributed on flat ground either! You have to do some tweaking with the rotor cage position from side to side (pinch point) and tipping the leveling system a degree or two to the left to help this. And its VERY finicky about this. The front right module does a vast majority of the threshing so the pan gets heavily loaded in that one spot. It then needs to get evenly spread out before it hits the sieves which are too short anyway... You can go from working great to puking out the back in a split second in my experience.

02-19-2011, 12:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
orangeguy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 335	So where the advantage to the self level shoe?

02-19-2011, 05:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
midwest Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 686	I've run 8010's for years and now an 8120. I grow mainly corn. I really have no complaints about the sieves in the combine. Run the right concave modules...... in the right place. Run with the bottom sieve OPEN, and clean with the top sieve. Run the pre-sieve in notch 3 or 4 (I think that's where it's at). The one drawback I see to the way the system works is with the yield monitor, when going up and down hills it is not the most accurate.

02-19-2011, 09:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
farminflyboy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,438	doesnt the pan tilt with the whole cleaning system?

02-19-2011, 10:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
dustmaker Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern Alberta Posts: 47	The grain pan tilts with the shoe. It is all part of the self leveling system

02-19-2011, 10:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
farmerjones Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SW Iowa Posts: 1,726	Forget corn....that's easy. Try to get it to distribute all the material evenly in small grains with high chaff loads. It works great some days, then terrible the next. Bleedred has it right...way to picky on how it works. And it most certainly thrashes unevenly. When we changed out our wheat concaves for corn on a 2.5 year old machine some of the rasp bars were COMPLETELY wore off....like gone! Totally uneven wear, and yes, it was all leveled out properly.

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