R42 vs R52

[IlliniCowman]

Just wondering is there much difference between and R42 and R52? Currently running 1984 L3. Want to upgrade and R42 coming up at farm auction.

[8850jd]

Stay clear of a duetz.. Otherwiss I dont knkw of much difference other then horsepower.

[tbran]

42 vs 52 - HP setting, unless ordered the 42 did not have chrome cage. Main drive belt on ealy models 2v vs 3v - 52 had grain bin extensions (most 42's had them field installed)- 52 had heavier final drives - again depending on how unit was ordered. R52 had 24.5-32 or 30.5's R42's had 23.1 or 28.1-26" drives. Rear axles were stronger on 52's Other than that identical.
As to engines - if one does not clean the radiator on a cummins it will overheat and cause damage - same on a deutz - it has radiators , if kept clean and not overfueld it will out last a cummins. HOWEVER most Deutz's were oversold as to 'no radiator' so they were neglected - thus a bad rap. I have a R50 4000 + hours still going strong. (we had a customer with a V8 deutz on a R60 - some how air filter wing nut wound up in #1 cylinder - sounded like a wipe out -8 hours later with new ((used)) piston, honed sleeve and reworked head he was back running. Deutz's do have a few advantages. )

[greencountry]

Nothing wrong with the deutz

[nddan]

We get along quite well with Deutz also. A couple things on the small inline 6 (913 series). These machines like all diesels should be started and allowed to reach operationg temperatures prior to putting to work. Same goes for a good cool down before shutting down. If you do not practice this on this small inline six the jug and block will grow or shrink at to fast of rate. Over time this will allow the shims they use on bottom of sleeve to start coming out of place. As they come out of place they will start to leak oil and jug will start moving around. Eventially the head will not be held square thus steel head gasket will start to leak excessively. This is not a common problem but I think I could tell you who will have this problem just by how they treat their diesels. If there is not any oil at bottom of jugs and look at push tube side I would not be worried. Like any used machine no matter which engine you never fully know the history or future.

[panhandle9400]

The oldest machine has a air cooled deutz and it has never given us much trouble, we have added dual air filters and new fan , also added a twin 12 volt fan system to help pull out heat an dust from engine compartment. It all depends on how you take care of them .

[8850jd]

We had one, it was a puddle of oil from new, dont know how taking care of it makes a difference from new. They may not give u trouble, we didnt even make 600 engine hours before we got rid of it. If you are looking for a used machine, you will know right away, but be warry of oil leaks.

[Gutter]

I agree with the posts above the Deutz are excellent engines. I had heard the Cummins was better, but have had alot better luck with the Deutz. Use to have an R42 with the Cummins and it was nothing but trouble, several engine related issues, weak on power, machine was built weak, and always used oil from new. Put up with it for 1500 hours and got an R52 with the Air cooled Deutz, best move I could have made. My advice would be get a R52 with the Deutz you wont be sorry.

[IlliniCowman]

Thanks for all of the input. I looked at machine yesterday. Overall in excellent shape...until we looked at feeder house. One guide bar wore off of drum, chain not running straight, finally stood back and saw belts on either side were both pulled to left side of machine. Looked at top sprockets, both wore on left side. Then found non-factory welds! Looks like feeder house is sprung. Not a lot but will surely keep causing trouble. Any ideas about how to correct?

[tbone95]

Originally Posted by IlliniCowman

Any ideas about how to correct?

By bying a different machine?

Seriously, if you owned and this happen, you'd fix it, but why buy yourself a project?