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« Thread Started on Feb 8, 2010, 4:38pm »

Educate me on chickpeas. I have never grown them, but they are grown in the area. The current price is attractive, but I don't know what production contracts look like yet. I need to do some phoning on that side. But what are the agronomics? Desi or kabuli?

I realize they are a very intensive crop, requiring a lot of scouting, spraying, fungicide, etc. But thats fine, thats what I do. I am looking for an alternative to lentils in my rotation, as there is talk of some excessive acres. I have 1/2 section of durum stubble and another 1/2 of canary seed which would be considered 'clean' of heavy broadleaf weed pressure. What are your experiences? Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on Feb 8, 2010, 5:57pm »

i have grown desis for a couple of years they are not to bad as far as disease but can be frustrating at harvest; in the sw they are sort of ready for harvest at the end of sept. the pods start to shatter a bit and stems are still green, i found its to late in the season for reglone and glyphos to work properly so put up with shattering or goo up the combine. i think the shattering in my area is caused by white tail deer they will move in to a chickpea crop by the hundreds if your the only one that grows them in the area.
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« Reply #2 on Feb 8, 2010, 6:32pm »

I grew Diva kabuli's for a number of years. Weed control was Edge and Poast but now Authority can be used. First spray for blight was Mid June and every 10 to 14 days after. Typically four sprays per season. More tolerant varieties like Frontier need only one or two passes. We found they do not shatter much so be patient for them to ripen.
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« Reply #3 on Feb 9, 2010, 11:53pm »

Alright, thanks guys. I still have yet to do some phoning, but I think I will seed 1/2 section for sure, maybe more. Hoping this will help spread out the August harvest rush of peas and lentils too.
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« Reply #4 on Feb 10, 2010, 9:15am »

Tim Willms has a couple of varieties of the newer kabulis if you are seeking but not finding near you.
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« Reply #5 on Feb 10, 2010, 10:57am »

We started growing kabulis in 1998 and continued for 8 or 9 years. One year of desis as well. There were alot of buyers in the early years but as time went on many went out of business and it was hard to find a home for them. Alot of companies find it simpler to buy lentils and not bother with the sizing of kabulis and find a buyer for each size.
Kabulis were easy to harvest even with rigid header,no shatter, desis will shatter so be sitting at the edge of the field with the combine. If growing kabulis check out sask pulse website they will have agronomic practices, don't skimp on spraying fungicide and DON"T spray late and expect to catch up on disease. We did very well growing them in the early years with very good yield and excellent prices. I am not a fan of the new kabuli varieties as they have sacrificed size for good disease characteristics and SIZE is what gets you the big price. New varieties are coming that have size again. Good luck
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« Reply #6 on Feb 16, 2010, 3:12pm »

One more consideration is that chickpeas seem to suck your soil dry for next years crop. Not sure if it is because they keep using soil moisture until the end up September or what, but a cereal grown on chickpea stubble in our area (SW Sask) tends to underyield anything else. For pulse stubble field peas seem to leave the most moisture the following year, followed by lentils then chickpeas, from my observation.
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« Reply #7 on Feb 16, 2010, 3:19pm »

Chickpeas are much more deeper rooted than a field pea. More like a cereal crop than a pulse. So they take it from deeper and often much later in the season since they are very indeterminate in maturity.
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« Reply #8 on Feb 18, 2010, 7:42pm »

redgreen if you are going to grow kabuli's they recomend putting down about 50lbs of n with them instead of innoculating the seed reason is kabuli chickpeas waste about 2 weeks nodulating, if you add nitrogen your crop will come in a lot sooner
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« Reply #9 on Feb 18, 2010, 10:16pm »

Thanks for the tip snipe. Is that product or actual pounds? Would it hurt to add that nitrogen and still innoculate, or am I just wasting time inoculating?

I left the old man in charge of finding a production contract back home for me, we will see what he comes up with. Last I heard is he was having trouble finding a contract for kabulis. :/
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« Reply #10 on Mar 9, 2010, 3:32pm »

have you thought about growing B-90's?
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