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We will see won't we! Just seems a stretch to invest $500M in a new ground up combine design (press reports) in a very well established market with much stronger players. Case struggled considerably just adopting their single rotor to work in the NH twin rotor platform that worked, took a few years to get the 8010 performing reliably.

Just indicating what I have been heard at recent farm shows. This machine is completely unproven in a very difficult market with excessive logistics issues mainly due to its weight, very little dealer interest up to this point. What about serviceability? Even with large dealer organizations like Cat here in the US, there is only so many service personnel to go around, how much training and time are they going to invest? Obviously, I think this is a crazy idea, launched at a very precarious time that don't seem to fit the market place very well, but curious as to what other thoughts are out there. As an AGCO customer my concerns are the drain to this machine that will ignore other products needs. Clearly you have your mind made up, and you should place your order!

If AGCO thinks that this is such a hit, would have thought they would have it running at Farm Progress Show and Husker Harvest Days, but it wasn't, tends to raise some red flags in a lot of minds. Maybe it will be a great success, time will tell.

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Wouldn't bank on the competition resting their laurels while AGCO is still trying to get this monster to work.
Now that I agree with.

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Boss are you a farmer or a salesmen for the competition? I do not have one piece of Agco equiptment on my yard but am excited to see how this machine works. It looks like they have put a lot of thought into the machine. The single rotor manufactures are stuck in the rut of using the same old rotor and put a lot more horsepower to it to make a a bigger machine.
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Ta Da!

https://m.facebook.com/story/graphql...NDQ5NjQ3OTk%3D

Two actually, one on wheels, one on tracks.

Hmm, do you have to be a FB sign up to see that?

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We will see won't we! Just seems a stretch to invest $500M in a new ground up combine design (press reports) in a very well established market with much stronger players. Case struggled considerably just adopting their single rotor to work in the NH twin rotor platform that worked, took a few years to get the 8010 performing reliably.

Just indicating what I have been heard at recent farm shows. This machine is completely unproven in a very difficult market with excessive logistics issues mainly due to its weight, very little dealer interest up to this point. What about serviceability? Even with large dealer organizations like Cat here in the US, there is only so many service personnel to go around, how much training and time are they going to invest? Obviously, I think this is a crazy idea, launched at a very precarious time that don't seem to fit the market place very well, but curious as to what other thoughts are out there. As an AGCO customer my concerns are the drain to this machine that will ignore other products needs. Clearly you have your mind made up, and you should place your order!

If AGCO thinks that this is such a hit, would have thought they would have it running at Farm Progress Show and Husker Harvest Days, but it wasn't, tends to raise some red flags in a lot of minds. Maybe it will be a great success, time will tell.
From a consumers perspective, it is ALWAYS a good idea for more competitors in the marketplace!
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Then you distribute some coffee shop anecdotal info about someone who saw it "dump" grain out the back three states away....
I dont know if it means anything but I heard reports of it being not far northwest of me.
Now what I have not heard is how it did. I did hear they had some trouble with it but was not inclined to listen to what because you know how that goes, could have been trying different components or whatever, truly it still is in development.
I had ended up at a John Deere appreciation supper and it was quite a buzz that's for sure. Mother Deere's minions seemed a little nervous about it so that was good!

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I think AGCO would be wise to release the rotor dimensions right now to the aftermarket thrashing component manufactures. I suspect they would all have ideas for different designs for different cropping regions that they cater to.

Personally I’m inclined to think rotors with at least some long rasp bars can have advantages in tough harvesting conditions and canola, especially where corn is not major in the crop rotations.
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That company hauled them both there today. Don, you giving one a test ?

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That company hauled them both there today. Don, you giving one a test ?
Hastie Hauling it looks like and is Trochu Motors main carrier.
You eat off the floor of those trucks!

As to demo if so not arranged by me but the three groups I harvest with may get a shot so perhaps by PFL I may see it in the ring, lol!
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Hmmmm, if it can separate snow from wheat without freezing of the sieves or gumming up all them fancy sensors to adjust for losses the only problem we will have to do is figure out a dryer that is up to the challenge!

I think if they could make something to sweep the snow off the crop, have a propane burner in the fan, that would keep the sieves warm and dry the grain all at the same time. Auger dry grain into truck, no need for a grain dryer. Now THAT would be "IDEAL"!

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