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9250 Draper on 2006 Challenger 660

We are trying to demo a 9250 on our 660. The combine does not have the necessary wiring or additional hyd valve to properly run the header. Agco has provided a couple part #'s for wiring harnesses and valve, etc but the parts people claim that most of the stuff in the "kits" aren't available. Has anyone installed all the right stuff on a 660 or equivalent machine to run a 9250? What is involved?

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100% it can be done. I'm coming from the Gleaner Transverse side of the Agco family so bear with me.
1. Does your combine have the "single point" hydraulic and electrical connector?
2. Does your combine have the "monoblock" hydraulic system?

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You would have to have the for aft hyd kit installed on this combine in order for the hyd angle to work on this header. There is a it available which consists of a pressure gauge which tee's into cutter bar cylinders to tell you what pressure you're running while on the ground and then there is a wiring harness to install which runs from the single point up to the cab and then you have to install a switch under the armrest which then selects between for aft which is electric on these headers or the for aft hydraulic valve which would then control your header angle by using the for aft buttons on the handle. The wire running to the single point I believe is to open a valve to allow the header angle to work as it is only a single wire which has power to it in 1 position. The other thing you will possibly need is a software update on the monitor so that it knows to allow you to adjust the header pressure from the cab. You will need version 1.6.9 to accomplish this to control the header and then under setup change the header to draper header and under your combine page you should be able to go and change the settings. I put one of these headers on a 2007 A85 and used it flawlessly minus the fact the combine didn't have lateral tilt which will help these headers in uneven terrain. This combine should have a single point connection on it already and the spots are already there to hook the for aft kit into it, you would have to take the blanks out. If you don't have the for aft kit on the combine the kit for it won't be ordered through parts it would be ordered through whole goods, if its out of stock then you will have to piece the kit together which shouldn't be too hard. The valve will be your most expensive part, the hoses could be made any where, the wiring is already there for it. Hope this helps
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I'll take MF-GLRRmbman's word for it on what the combine has installed.
The additional valve kit was wholegoods # 71419558. I have attached a breakdown below of what it contained. Installation instructions were part# 71440549 B Revision.

The other kit was wholegoods # 700956339. It was the cab control kit. Breakdown also below. Instructions # 71443914 B Revision.

At the end of the day one of the installed switches is used to fire an electric diverter valve that comes standard on all the Dynaflex headers. When this valve is energized the reel raise and lower function becomes the cutterbar pressure function. The other switch toggles between reel fore and aft functioning normally or being used for the cutterbar tilt function.


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Save yourself the $2000 on additional kits and put a macdon on. Coming from running both heads, a macdon draper is a far superior to the agco draper.
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Regardless of whether you run a Macdon or dynaflex you still need a aux valve to tilt the header...the whole goods kit is no longer available but individual pieces are still available from Agco parts. Off the top of my head I think the 06 is pre-monoblock valve so you will need to order a unloader swing valve slice and hoses and wire harness.
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The tilt valve comes already on the header adapter. The only parts you need on the combine is a 2 wire harness run into the cab and a switch under the armrest. About 1/2 hr to install.
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Thanks very much for the part #'s. As far as automatic header height, we have found that header lift and lateral tilt response is slow and awkward. We have version 1.6.9 on the display, but I'm having a hard time finding in Setup where to change to draper header. Would this improce the poor response of auto header height?
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The previous owner of the machine added the single point after he took delivery of it. The combine does not have the monoblock, nor does it appear there are any wire pigtails or connectors in the armrest.
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You are going to have to dig under the console where the armrest flips up to find the wiring if its already there. When you get the wiring kit for the older combines it will have good instructions on how to install the wiring. for speeding up the lateral tilt and header lift you will have to adjust the valves for each one to speed them up. To adjust to a draper header under setup you would go where you adjust your header cut width and there should be a selection there to go from a draper to flex header to a auger header. Green country there is no hydraulic angle valve built into the header it requires the combine to do it.

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