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Compared to what they had before. I thought everything on the new model has increased in size/capacity, except the cleaning system is the same.
The prep pans are longer, not sure if that helps, not much if any.

There is the larger diameter concave, do you suppose seed separates better out of the material with larger diameter? Donít know that either, reduced centrifugal force though may sort seed with less material?
The more straight line flow breaking up material less?

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Since Don refuses to ingest rocks for testing, I had to be the guinea pig.

The rock that did this ended up in the stone trap, made a pretty good bang too. Gonna have to replace the mount and remove a dent from the APS, but I'm gonna say the ZAPS are pretty darn tough!!!



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Since Don refuses to ingest rocks for testing, I had to be the guinea pig.

The rock that did this ended up in the stone trap, made a pretty good bang too. Gonna have to replace the mount and remove a dent from the APS, but I'm gonna say the ZAPS are pretty darn tough!!!

Wow, indestructible!
What cylinder rpm when that happened?
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Wow, indestructible!
What cylinder rpm when that happened?
Actually that happened at the end of the peas, maybe 350RPM tops. Cleaning the machine and switching to wheat today and found it. I actually think had the cylinder been at 800 it would have been more of a glancing blow, I think the lower speed allowed it to really grab hold of the rock. We had to straighten the plate that holds the APS grate as well.

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Actually that happened at the end of the peas, maybe 350RPM tops. Cleaning the machine and switching to wheat today and found it. I actually think had the cylinder been at 800 it would have been more of a glancing blow, I think the lower speed allowed it to really grab hold of the rock. We had to straighten the plate that holds the APS grate as well.
Agree, higher cylinder speed may have actually done less damage.
How do (did) you fix the drum itself?

Oddly, I’m happy to see that, always had the concern these would turn into shrapnel on severe impact, obviously not!

Dale was correct, in fact they are far tougher than the welded assemblies. Cast in China btw..

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Agree, higher cylinder speed may have actually done less damage.
How do (did) you fix the drum itself?

Oddly, Iím happy to see that, always had the concern these would turn into shrapnel on severe impact, obviously not!

Dale was correct, in fact they are far tougher than the welded assemblies. Cast in China btw..
Not fixed yet but it will be a drill and slide hammer, then weld a new cap on....if I had to guess.

China... Oh well, it did bend instead of breaking. Just the little tips bent though.

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Swman just get a heavy ball pien hammer and take off the APS caps close by that are in the way of your hammer swing. Just hit the sides of the mount with the hammer and you will be surprised how straight you can get it without replacing it.
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Oooof. Never seen an APS paddle beat back like that. Strike one against the zero degree. Have you spun it up fast yet? I’m surprised it isn’t way out of balance.
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Oooof. Never seen an APS paddle beat back like that. Strike one against the zero degree. Have you spun it up fast yet? Iím surprised it isnít way out of balance.
Learned speeds and it felt okay, lot more weight on there, perhaps one APS cap is a lower percentage of overall weight now.

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Strike one against the zero degree.
No way of knowing what the exact same situation on stock APS caps would have done though. Impossible to test.

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