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post #11 of 128 (permalink) Old 11-26-2018, 01:02 AM
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Don do the Aps caps fit on the Claas Aps Drum or do you need a sunnybrook Aps Drum? Been following your zero degree Aps threads and it sounds impressive. The anti plug turns the feederhouse off way too often in peas and canola.

Claas answer is to speed up the cylinder, which does feed way better, but it Cracks peas and canola too much.

I only mention the combine trading often because you would not really experience the long term wear, durability or maintenance.
The complete drum idea got axed. Version 1.0.

Simply unbolt stock cap, discard cap, bolt, washer and nut. 4 parts.
Bolt on ZAPS with serrated flange lock bolt. 2 parts.
If done without doing anything else lower headerless feeder all the way down to do through top feeder door. Remove the two cylinder bolts for speed range changing, leave them out, allows easy turning of just APS and cylinder.
The lastest ZAPS versions (about 2.3 and 2.4) will be cast and either non-boranized or boranized.

Auto stop has three sensitivity settings, I run mine on lowest, makes quite a difference and still works great.

I ran as low as 280 cylinder speed in peas at engine power limit in testing this fall, the extremely erratic crop made it very difficult to properly test mind you and the odd feeder shut down did occur although nothing ever actually plugged.

150 seperator hours and the caps appear pristine. However, they were the welded assembly and boranized version 2.2.


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Correct me if I am wrong, but were these APS caps not tested using a manufactured steel(welded) piece? I thought I heard you mention they would be produced from cast making them less expensive to manufacture? Would this possibly affect their ability to withstand rock impact? Don't need a bunch of golf ball size pieces of cast going through the machine...


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Correct me if I am wrong, but were these APS caps not tested using a manufactured steel(welded) piece? I thought I heard you mention they would be produced from cast making them less expensive to manufacture? Would this possibly affect their ability to withstand rock impact? Don't need a bunch of golf ball size pieces of cast going through the machine...
All correct and your rock damage concern was exactly the concern I immediately expressed on hearing of the cast plan.
Dale assures me the material and process used and especially if boranized will make them as ductile as a welded assembly.

Hope to see a cast sample this week.

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Make sure you take your sledge hammer...LOL
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Make sure you take your sledge hammer...LOL
I probably couldn’t swing it as fast as the slowest ZAPS tip speed would be, lol!
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I probably couldn’t swing it as fast as the slowest ZAPS tip speed would be, lol!
Yeah me neither. On second thought maybe that is a bad idea, I could see the shrapnel ending up lots of places that wouldn't feel very good...

Maybe just trust the metal expert guy and just grab us a picture.

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That’s the plan, not sure they’ll be in yet though.
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Are there rub bars not made out of the some type of cast material? If the caps (ZAPS) are they will be quite malleable.

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Out of all the angles you tried Don what angle is going to be in the final production for the caps?
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Out of all the angles you tried Don what angle is going to be in the final production for the caps?
Zero.
Only tried -14 and 0, zero had the most advantage.

That is to shaft centreline of course.

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