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A few Claas specs questions

Im looking at both narrow and wide bodies, dynamic cooling era and newer. Ive been comparing about 10 machines and no one uses the same terminology. Auger lengths listed in feet, #XL, and even inches for some reason.

What do each XL number auger lengths equate to in feet?

How many feet recommended for 40’ platform head with no autosteer? 45’ platform head?

Everyone lists 35” tracks, was there another width offered?

HD vs variable speed feederhouse. Im guessing both are variable. Ill be running a 12 row folding but non chopping geringhoff corn head and a 40-45’ Macdon. Which would be recommended or sufficient?

Did all come with auto contour or is it an option only? What about auto reel speed?

What is HD grain handling?

Is cruise pilot the same as “autopilot for NAF”?

Some ‘13s are listed as “pre-14 dynamic cooling”. Is there any benefit to these years, as in, no DEF fluid or DEF?

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Im looking at both narrow and wide bodies, dynamic cooling era and newer. Ive been comparing about 10 machines and no one uses the same terminology. Auger lengths listed in feet, #XL, and even inches for some reason.

What do each XL number auger lengths equate to in feet?

How many feet recommended for 40’ platform head with no autosteer? 45’ platform head?

Everyone lists 35” tracks, was there another width offered?

HD vs variable speed feederhouse. Im guessing both are variable. Ill be running a 12 row folding but non chopping geringhoff corn head and a 40-45’ Macdon. Which would be recommended or sufficient?

Did all come with auto contour or is it an option only? What about auto reel speed?

What is HD grain handling?

Is cruise pilot the same as “autopilot for NAF”?

Some ‘13s are listed as “pre-14 dynamic cooling”. Is there any benefit to these years, as in, no DEF fluid or DEF?

Thanks for any help
This will clear your auger questions:


If you are not CTF 4XL is easy on 40’, tight but doable on 45’.

Looks like North America and Australia get the widest tracks only, Europe gets narrower for transport regs.

If you are 12 row chopping corn header (I see not corn front!) you need HD variable drive to ensure enough torque.

Not sure auto contour is standard.

HD handing involves heavier high wear components in the grain tank and may be slower.

I don't know what NAF is but don’t think it’s Cruise Pilot.

I will not tackle Oz emission regulations.

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This will clear your auger questions:


If you are not CTF 4XL is easy on 40’, tight but doable on 45’.

Looks like North America and Australia get the widest tracks only, Europe gets narrower for transport regs.

If you are 12 row chopping corn header (I see not corn front!) you need HD variable drive to ensure enough torque.

Not sure auto contour is standard.

HD handing involves heavier high wear components in the grain tank and may be slower.

I don't know what NAF is but don’t think it’s Cruise Pilot.

I will not tackle Oz emission regulations.
Thank you, that clears up a lot. Ill keep an eye out for the 7xl so that i can dump at the grainery in the next county. Eliminate trucks altogether.

Im in the US as far as emissions. I just didnt know if some years came with DPF vs DEF or some had both.
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Thank you, that clears up a lot. Ill keep an eye out for the 7xl so that i can dump at the grainery in the next county. Eliminate trucks altogether.

Im in the US as far as emissions. I just didnt know if some years came with DPF vs DEF or some had both.
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Ha ha, yes, interestingly a 7XL is the same as Agco Ideals’ big auger length wise.

Still hard to compare emissions though, OZ gets Perkins and Cat, NA gets Mercedes (just DEF) and Cat (think that’s DPF and DEF?).

You are shopping in the US?

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You are shopping in the US?
Yes. I am in Virginia and North Carolina, US. I have come across one machine that fits me well that is in Canada, but I doubt it will be worth whatever is involved to bring it into the states. I need it in about a month.

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Yes. I am in Virginia and North Carolina, US. I have come across one machine that fits me well that is in Canada, but I doubt it will be worth whatever is involved to bring it into the states. I need it in about a month.
Oh, stupid me, I read SE VA as SE Victoria, Australia, yes, you must have wondered where I was going with OZ emissions!

I do not know how tough border crossing is with a combine but we have no wall.

Oh, 4XL is the longest yellow auger available.

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Oh, stupid me, I read SE VA as SE Victoria, Australia, yes, you must have wondered where I was going with OZ emissions!

I do not know how tough border crossing is with a combine but we have no wall.

Oh, 4XL is the longest yellow auger available.
Yeah you had me double check my location.

Well these dealers havent made things easy. One lists a 29’2”, and two a 28’2”. So im assuming they are actually slightly shorter, and 4xl and 3xl respectively. Sounds like either would be fine on a 40’, but 45’ may need an extension.

It also important that autosteer may not always be used while dumping, so we need some breathing room. One dealer wants to pair a machine up with a 45’ Macdon, and im just thinking that could be a bad idea for me.
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I would think with your US dollar, Canada would be a great place to shop for a combine for you. Won’t be a big deal to cross border.

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I would think with your US dollar, Canada would be a great place to shop for a combine for you. Won’t be a big deal to cross border.
The machine in Canada is by far the best buy when factoring future cost per hour of use. This meaning, not factoring my personal budget, because it is also the most expensive but lowest houred machine.

Canadian unit $118/sep hr of future use.
8.5 years before replacement

US $119-157 (9 units)
4.5-7 years before replacement

I guess ill have to talk to a trucking company that is familiar with crossing the border.
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Just curious how you are valuing it that far out to figure out what it will cost per sep hr ?

Qline trucking out of Saskatoon Saskatchewan would be a good company to talk to. They travel back and forth all the time. Farmer owned.


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