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the button for lifting the header is actuallyquite logic if tou start thinking about it cause when you push on the bottom of the bottom its like you would use leverage to lift the header anyway its just what you get used to.

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Quote:the button for lifting the header is actuallyquite logic if tou start thinking about it cause when you push on the bottom of the bottom its like you would use leverage to lift the header anyway its just what you get used to.

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When you get in an elevator where are the low numbers?
That would be logical.
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LOL! Funny listening to you guys discuss things, I enjoy hearing other peoples opinions on the lexions, I appreciate the humour. The turning radius is unbelievably bad, almost to the point of hilarity unless of course you have to run it for a fall! I found that I would just use the turning brake a lot, it will be interesting to see how long those brakes will hold up with that much use.
Hey Don are you the fella from alberta that is in the john deere ads? There is a Don from alberta who runs a 9860 and a 9520 4WD, I've seen the adds, I'm pretty sure he's from three hills. Also, how much of a capacity gain do you think the 590 has over the 9860, all conditions, how many acres/sep. hour do you get in a season. Jester, you run grain carts, am I right? How many acres/rotor hour have you averaged with your 970s. We had looked originally at getting a 9070 along with a grain cart, because we thought with the lower price, we might be able to get similar capacity as the 590 with no cart. Once we really got dealing however, the price of the two machines was quite similar, so the 590 seemed like a no-brainer. What kind of price difference have you been quoted between the 9070/590. I'm curious, we always get a lower sticker price from deere, but the financing is terrible, I guess if your paying cash then that doesn't matter much. Service is a moot point for us as we are serviced well by all brands out here. I liked the 970 when we demoed it against our 480r, it probably would have been our choice if the 590 had not been available.
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so are you saying that you arenot impressed by the 590?
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Very, very impressed! I'm looking forward to getting in it again next year. I'm always curious how the other machines out there are performing. We only run one machine so it is difficult to guage its performance relative to the competition. We're happy with it, and are not looking to change brands any time soon.
I try to be objective in my evaluations, I think maybe sometimes it comes across as me not appreciating the lexion. I mean I really like it, its capacity is huge, it does a fantastic job, service has been great, what more could you ask for?
I agree with your post above, I can't believe there aren't more of them out there, I think if they had a better dealer network then they would move a bunch more machines. A friend of mine would like to have one, but he's 3.5 hours from the nearest dealer, so he sticks with deere.
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Forgot some things. The wheel brakes are about as effective as dragging your foot (bad combo with poor wheel cut) and the unloading auger should turn more forward, maybe 10 degrees?
This machine was an 05 maybe that auger swing switch thing may be different now.
Yes quieter than 9860 but noisier than the industry standard CR.
That hydraulic lock for road gear is a PITA, WAY, WAY TOO MUCH BIG BROTHER.
I'm a MacDon man NO knife stalling.

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Cut the wheel stops only limited by cylinder stroke on my 4WD 9860. So I'm spoiled. 25 ft U turn no loop no brakes.The 590 is pathetic even when maneuvering in the yard. By the way guys spend 10 bucks on a steering wheel spinner. Makes all combines handle nicer. Warning - does not affect max wheel cut! Dam!
In the conditions I was running in, the 590 would have been 150 to 200% of my 9860. It would struggled and rumbled and grumbled to do much over 60% of the 590. All the time? No. But conditions here are probably "good" about 4 hours a day if at all at this time of year. Isn't it funny when talking about combine capacity it's always the good going. When you talk Lexion it's the tough going. Hmmm.
I find that I have to keep the 590R on my short list, warts and all.
It's just too big a force to ignore.

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Quote:LOL! Funny listening to you guys discuss things, I enjoy hearing other peoples opinions on the lexions, I appreciate the humour. The turning radius is unbelievably bad, almost to the point of hilarity unless of course you have to run it for a fall! I found that I would just use the turning brake a lot, it will be interesting to see how long those brakes will hold up with that much use.
Hey Don are you the fella from alberta that is in the john deere ads? There is a Don from alberta who runs a 9860 and a 9520 4WD, I've seen the adds, I'm pretty sure he's from three hills. Also, how much of a capacity gain do you think the 590 has over the 9860, all conditions, how many acres/sep. hour do you get in a season. Jester, you run grain carts, am I right? How many acres/rotor hour have you averaged with your 970s. We had looked originally at getting a 9070 along with a grain cart, because we thought with the lower price, we might be able to get similar capacity as the 590 with no cart. Once we really got dealing however, the price of the two machines was quite similar, so the 590 seemed like a no-brainer. What kind of price difference have you been quoted between the 9070/590. I'm curious, we always get a lower sticker price from deere, but the financing is terrible, I guess if your paying cash then that doesn't matter much. Service is a moot point for us as we are serviced well by all brands out here. I liked the 970 when we demoed it against our 480r, it probably would have been our choice if the 590 had not been available.


OH OH busted. I was wondering how long that would take.
Capacity? See previous post.
We've averaged barely 12 ac/hr lately lots of straw, terribly shoe limited in canola. Hey did you know a Deere only adds hours when header on, others threshing unit pretty sure.
I agree the prices for all 6 BIG ONES are similar, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if a 9870 cashes out higher than a 590R now. But be aware programs, promotions and dealer mood subject to change without notice!
You are very lucky to be served well by all dealers.
Thanks for the humor comment, life's too short and I want to go out laughing.

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Quote:As for price, not sure of exact figures but I know we would only be able get 3 Lexions for the price of 4 NH's...as mentioned earlier, the cost - benefit did not pencil out. In addition, the brilliant Cat network in Sk consists of one dealer with very few locations across the province (2 for Ag I think).

Don, have you had honey bee before or always Macdon. In my off farm job, I work with an ex Macdon salesman and he has me thinking of Macdon as well. Interesting that our likes and dislikes are similar regarding the lexion.


I'm not sure why you have a greater price spread than my quotes, o well.
Your assessment of the dealer set-up is right on and I wonder if Claas is aware of it.Their equipment deserves better.
Always MacDon mainly because of automatic header height control, on the go hydraulic header tilt, and timed double knife drive all since 2000.
I guess we have common "whining" interests but neither of us has suggested anything that wouldn't benefit all, including Claas.
Thanks for your input.

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