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2016 swathmaster pickup problem

Have a 2008 swathmaster(Macdon) pickup header that does not pickup swathed oats well. Works fine in canola before we started straighting it but leaves too much behind for my liking in oats. Have carrier wheels raised as far as possible to lower pickup. Ordered new teeth which were supposed to be longer but actually are shorter than teeth currently on header. They are thicker and heavier made though. Any ideas for improving results in cereal crops would be greatly appreciated!!!

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Have a 2008 swathmaster(Macdon) pickup header
So is it the title age or the first sentence age?
They have different wheel mount systems.

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2016 is the model number likely, CaseIH header.

Are springs too tight and it's bouncing?

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That’s confusing.
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The 2016's I've seen use an accumulator instead of springs
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The 2016's I've seen use an accumulator instead of springs
Sure that's not the 3016 which is CNH's in-house PU header?

The 2016 model was the Macdon re-branded.

I actually did prototype testing of the 3016 before it had an actual number. It had springs or optional hydraulic damping.

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Swath them to an angle that you sow them. We have always sowed on a bit of an angle and some guys said that is dumb because of overlap, told them it picks up better, now they do the same. Also helps with trash management.
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The model # is 2016 which I think is a rebranded Macdon. Last year I seeded my oats at an angle and it helped some. This year I seeded them at a 45 degree angle hoping for better results. It has an accumulator not springs and 9 belts instead of three like on case header.

I was really hoping I could get a finger at least a 1/2” longer. Think it would help. Run the platform 14” above ground like the manual states. Just at a loss. Really wish I would have opted for the rake-up pickup instead. More $ and complexity but they don’t leave anything behind if set and run properly(neighbor had one).
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Maybe rake up tines would work. They are 11/2 inches longer that normal case ones on a 1015 pickup. I find if I run the pickup so the front is just contacting the ground. It moves the place where the pickup tines pop out to lift the crop. If the head is too flat they won’t sweep the crop up just flick thru it.
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Have a 2008 swathmaster(Macdon) pickup header that does not pickup swathed oats well. Works fine in canola before we started straighting it but leaves too much behind for my liking in oats. Have carrier wheels raised as far as possible to lower pickup. Ordered new teeth which were supposed to be longer but actually are shorter than teeth currently on header. They are thicker and heavier made though. Any ideas for improving results in cereal crops would be greatly appreciated!!!
If you have the pickup wheels all the way up you’d be digging in the dirt. (If it’s a seathmaster)

Make sure the gauge wheels are put on properly. They are put on backwards for shipping I think. Have had two demo combines at our place that had the wheels the wrong way and did a terrible job picking up the swath. Wouldn’t go low enough till we flipped them around.
We had a rake up on one combine and it wasn’t any better then the swathmaster on the other combine.

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