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We've since switched to all awnless or smooth awn varieties to eliminate being forced into this situation again.
You talking barley Dan?
Iíve never understood how a rough awn could be as nice to eat as a smooth awn, just a finger rub shows the difference.

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You talking barley Dan?
Iíve never understood how a rough awn could be as nice to eat as a smooth awn, just a finger rub shows the difference.
Those rough awns can cause health issues as well, I do try to avoid them in barley. Limits you on your choices though, as for some reason the seed breeders concentrate on rough varieties and leave the smooth ones sucking the hind teat. Thats why I'm still growing Sundre and good ol' Bonanza, so like a few years back during drought, I could easily process crop into feed stocks.


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We've since switched to all awnless or smooth awn varieties to eliminate being forced into this situation again.
From someone who doesn't have near the experience with wheat, does the rough awns have any advantages in a grain only situation that an awnless or smooth awn wouldn't? If a rough awn doesn't have any benefit why wouldn't they just breed them out? (Probably easier said than done...) At the end of the day just more chaff going through the combine anyways.
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You talking barley Dan?
Iíve never understood how a rough awn could be as nice to eat as a smooth awn, just a finger rub shows the difference.
Defining not as nice when they get down your shirt and into your belly button and other places best left to the imagination also.

I was growing AC Foremost CPS (rough awned) but have switched to Pasteur (awnless) as I ended up selling it as feed most of the time. Trying some AAC Connery (awnless) as some of the neighbours are having better yields on CWRS than CPS.

Used to grow Seebe barley (rough awns) for silage but have switched to Trochu (smooth awns) for anything I plan on combining just to have a backup plan.

Just like AB I check the "awns" category in the seed guide. Although I'm sure we're a minority.

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From someone who doesn't have near the experience with wheat, does the rough awns have any advantages in a grain only situation that an awnless or smooth awn wouldn't? If a rough awn doesn't have any benefit why wouldn't they just breed them out? (Probably easier said than done...) At the end of the day just more chaff going through the combine anyways.
The thought pattern is that a rough may have better disease resistance. We have never chopped a smooth only rough and have really had no issues. Maybe 5 or 6 lump jaws in 20 years.
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Those rough awns can cause health issues as well, I do try to avoid them in barley. Limits you on your choices though, as for some reason the seed breeders concentrate on rough varieties and leave the smooth ones sucking the hind teat. Thats why I'm still growing Sundre and good ol' Bonanza, so like a few years back during drought, I could easily process crop into feed stocks.
A little off topic but I never could get Sundre to stand good. Would either go flat or the straw would break halfway up and put the heads on the ground. Seem to have better luck with Trochu. How do you find it?

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