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A truck doesn’t make very significant horsepower at 1100 RPM, it just gets a relatively easy job done.

To make 680 horsepower for example at 1100 RPM, the crankshaft would need to produce 3250 ft. Lbs of torque.

The maximum crankshaft torque allowed on an 18 speed Eaton transmission is 2250 ft Lbs.

2250 ft Lbs @ 1100 RPM is 471 HP.

It is nice to have a small enough load on a farm tractor, or have it moving slow enough to be able to throttle down and gear up, but if they don’t make a big enough tractor to do that for you, you either need to rev it up to maximum horsepower, or trade for a smaller aircart or something to lessen the load.

You could put 942 horsepower into an Eaton 18 speed at 2200 RPM at the same maximum 2250 ft Lbs of torque.

https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/catal...nsmission.html
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Itís Smokey and the bandit. Mostly Smokey...

A touch more than 2250 and a measly 1000hp.

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How the he!! do those trucks hold together???!!! Can't believe how close the crowd is to the strip. Those trucks smoke like my old Bruin!


Anyone else notice none of them broke down because of an emissions problem!!! lol The way the new trucks race isn't so much how fast you get to the finish line, but whether or not you can just get to it!

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Then this can happen.....
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So, would that be considered an out of frame overhaul?? Bet the drivers first thought would be along the lines of "What the **#K!!! just happened??"

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I'm thinking it was spinning more then 1400rpm.

Makes it easier to rebuild if you don't have to pull it out of the truck first.
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Wowza. Absolutely everything trashed from pumps to turbos to obviously long block.

I’m thinking his first thought was the gut wrenching feeling of his wallet being ripped from his pocket by the fist that just reached out of his ass.....

It’s nothing to have 50-100k into one of those engines!
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I think it was a C-18 so swman better be careful with his challenger.....
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Hi,

I have heard about Massey Ferguson new series of 500hp tractors which MF is to introduce this autumn. There are some considerations that they will get Fendt 1000 in red...



Has anyone heard about it yet?
Standing on what Agco executives declared during a press conference (Agritechnica 2015) this new tractor won't be a Fendt clone.
The timing seems to be not so wrong as well.



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It is not coming just yet, but AGCO is developing a new range of high-hp tractors to sit above the current flagship models in the Valtra S an MF 8700 series. Mentioned briefly at a Valtra press meeting at Agritechnica, we understand the new range could include three models with possible outputs of 400, 420 and 500hp. There is nothing official, but we also understand the new tractors will not be clones of Fendt's 1000 series. As to the potential launch date, we are told to think Stage V engine emissions (2019/2020) at the very earliest. By Steven Vale
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Yeah but who wants the engine spinning at 2000RPM when you can do it at 1500 without fear of it crapping it's pants.

The 13 liter engines in my Volvo trucks run 1100-1400RPM all day and behave just as a diesel should, why can't CNH and Deere do
I would suggest not running your C18 at 1500 rpm under heavy load, broken crankshafts can happen. Just because it can do it no problem doesnít mean itís easy on it. A little more RPM and there is way less torque on rotating parts.

Semi trucks can run lower rpm than a Farm tractor because their duty cycle is significantly less than a constant load on a tractor. For example a Truck will use full power for a few seconds to climb a hill then coast for awhile. A tractor has a heavy constant load for hours on end pulling air drills and such.

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