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Massey Ferguson 500 hp tractor

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I have heard about Massey Ferguson new series of 500hp tractors which MF is to introduce this autumn. There are some considerations that they will get Fendt 1000 in red...



Has anyone heard about it yet?

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Aren't they red challengers?

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Red Challengers or Fendts? Didn't think the MF line had the 1050 equivalent, thought the Challenger was just a yellow Fendt, assumed the Fendt was the first to that party but do not know for sure.

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The 1000 series are Fendt's painted Challenger colors. The MT400, 500, and 600 are MF's painted Challenger. The 700, 800, and 900 are Challenger's.
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Our local dealer said that there would be a new 500 hp serie wheel tractor in 2020. Some peoples claim that Massey Ferguson is going to have new tractors. Massey has bought a new buildings and they are about to produce 14 new series of tractors in Beauvais in France. Fendt produce yellow Challenger for U.S. and Australia maybe, and they are adjusting production capacity for 1000 serie in Marktoberdorf. There is something strange in this. Our locall dealers are scared of Massey´s having 1000 in red...
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They need to put tracks on that 900 series 4WD and nothing would touch them. Even my 965 on 800's will out pull what my Quad-trac's used to do, at half the RPM...ha ha Maybe they are updating the 900 series and giving Massey access to it, I have no idea really. At this point I really think they need to give all dealers access to the full line and badge them however they choose. Around here anyways there isn't Massey and Challenger dealers across the street from each other. The whole line is top notch if you don't count having to add in aftermarket GPS equipment.

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They need to put tracks on that 900 series 4WD and nothing would touch them. Even my 965 on 800's will out pull what my Quad-trac's used to do, at half the RPM...ha ha

The whole line is top notch if you don't count having to add in aftermarket GPS equipment.
I don't recall which series of 900 series you have, does yours have the Cat or SISU engine?

I can't believe that they don't have that figured out. It seems like every time you turn around they have a different GPS system. Are they still trying to use the TopCon equipment or have them moved on from that?

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I don't recall which series of 900 series you have, does yours have the Cat or SISU engine?

I can't believe that they don't have that figured out. It seems like every time you turn around they have a different GPS system. Are they still trying to use the TopCon equipment or have them moved on from that?
I have a 965C and my 865 is an E series. Both engines have very good torque, Sisu is quieter but of course burns DEF. Both tractors have their strong points and both pull really well. About 2000 hours on each tractor now with no downtime on the 865E and only two minor repairs on the 965C, been really good units.

The Trimble stuff is pretty easy to hook up with a pretty reasonable platform package but it still is an add-on. The CNH equipment seems to all come with the GPS equipment included, not sure about Deere. I think Topcon might be the choice for AGCO in other parts of the world and I think it can be ordered with that, but nobody here is running Topcon guidance. Point is nobody is running a 4WD or row crop tractor without guidance, should be built in.

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It’s strange what goes on sometimes. In Nebraska on a scientifically controlled test a Challenger 965C on a 50% pull at 1537 RPM produced 211 DB HP.

A 600 Quadtrac on a 50% pull at 1478 RPM produced 248 DB HP.

A 965C on a 75% pull at 1539 RPM produced 314 DB HP.

A 600 Quadtrac at 75% pull at 1471 RPM produced 367 DB HP.

I wonder if there was something wrong with that C18, or if it just seems like it sucks for its size sometimes????

https://tractortestlab.unl.edu/documents/mt965c.pdf

https://tractortestlab.unl.edu/docum...00%20Quad.pdft

I agree, the 900 series AGCO’s will also need to be badged or at least sold by MF dealers so large producers can get their tractors where they buy their IDEAL combines.
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It’s strange what goes on sometimes. In Nebraska on a scientifically controlled test a Challenger 965C on a 50% pull at 1537 RPM produced 211 DB HP.

A 600 Quadtrac on a 50% pull at 1478 RPM produced 248 DB HP.

A 965C on a 75% pull at 1539 RPM produced 314 DB HP.

A 600 Quadtrac at 75% pull at 1471 RPM produced 367 DB HP.

I wonder if there was something wrong with that C18, or if it just seems like it sucks for its size sometimes????

https://tractortestlab.unl.edu/documents/mt965c.pdf

https://tractortestlab.unl.edu/docum...00%20Quad.pdft

I agree, the 900 series AGCO’s will also need to be badged or at least sold by MF dealers so large producers can get their tractors where they buy their IDEAL combines.
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I can't explain what goes on at Nebraska test track. I would say there is some pretty suspect stuff comes out of the NTTL, any chance they are not as pure as the wind-driven snow like just about every other organization on earth? I'm just glad we don't farm on pavement. I do know pulling the same implements up the same hills that there is really no comparison in the field, my 965 is weighted pretty heavily though. One of the really nice things about the larger displacement engines is they seem to hang in there at below 1500RPM, which the CNH and Deere 13L engines don't. Just makes it a less stressful experience. I did drive a 9620RX I believe it was(15L Cummins) and it did have some good torque, perhaps the Versatile would be same.

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