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Seeding 6mph or faster

Does anyone seed faster with a seedhawk, conserva pak, or bourgault? It seems like the nice number is 5mph, wondering if some push it and try to get it in faster. I was looking at the efficiency of seeding time and a 20% increase in speed would mean finishing 2 days earlier from 12 days to 10. Being in Canada where the season is short already it would be nice to get it in as fast as can. But is there a sacrifice on seed placement?

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Must be nice to seed at 5mph. It’s never happened here with a independent drill. 4.5 is ideal and 4.8 is pushing it with a little bit of stepping happening.

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4-4.5 here.

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4.5-5 mph for us depending on conditions.

Bourgault 3310 with 3/4" openers on 10" space
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Seedhawk here, 4.5mph in canola up to 5.2 mph in cereals
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With a bourgault 8910 6.5-7mph
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Almost all equipment does a better job the slower you go, notable exception being harrows and lemken/protill type implements. Pretty easy to check seed placement for yourself, that will answer the questions pretty fast. If you're looking for 20% and shopping for a unit, I think you'd be happier with 60' at 4.5 than 50' at 5.4.


A bigger cart alone should get a 20% increase in acres seeded per day, it doesn't take many minutes of 0 acres/hr (filling) to really mess with your average. Do some reading about sprayer fill times by Tom Wolf, same can be applied to seeding.


That said, I spoke with a neighbor on the weekend who is seeding canola into fall banded ground at 6.5 mph with a flexi 820 cultivator and loves it, wouldn't switch to one of these "new fangled air drills" if it means slowing down. He grows good crops. Others will have a better idea on how the twin knife drills (don't) work at those speeds.
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With 8810 Bourgault, 10 inch spacing and 3 inch spoons, 5-6 mph. Has K-Hart packers with the row of harrows in front of the packers.Neighbor has a 60 foot independent Bourgault, not sure what model, but painful to watch.
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Almost all equipment does a better job the slower you go, notable exception being harrows and lemken/protill type implements. Pretty easy to check seed placement for yourself, that will answer the questions pretty fast. If you're looking for 20% and shopping for a unit, I think you'd be happier with 60' at 4.5 than 50' at 5.4.


A bigger cart alone should get a 20% increase in acres seeded per day, it doesn't take many minutes of 0 acres/hr (filling) to really mess with your average. Do some reading about sprayer fill times by Tom Wolf, same can be applied to seeding.


That said, I spoke with a neighbor on the weekend who is seeding canola into fall banded ground at 6.5 mph with a flexi 820 cultivator and loves it, wouldn't switch to one of these "new fangled air drills" if it means slowing down. He grows good crops. Others will have a better idea on how the twin knife drills (don't) work at those speeds.
+1 consider a bigger cart for capacity. Can add 10-20% acres fairly cheaply, depending on your current setup.
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What is our benchmark for comparing speeds?

“I go X mph and it works good”

But are we doing mortality tests, plant stands, yields comparisons etc.?

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