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Round up ready canola vs invigour

Round up canola seemed to have a struggle with emergence this year compared to invigour- anyone else have that happen?

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That would really depend which roundup variety. My pioneer ones came up just as good as my invigor.

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I think it would be more related to seed lot, perhaps related to variety a bit. Type of seed treatment could be a factor too. Doubt it's a RR/LL thing.

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I was more curious if people that had flea beetle issues this year, did you notice a difference between varieties? We had some Brett Young that got hammered hard, Pioneer stuff hardly had any. Sorry for hijacking your thread.

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I was more curious if people that had flea beetle issues this year, did you notice a difference between varieties? We had some Brett Young that got hammered hard, Pioneer stuff hardly had any. Sorry for hijacking your thread.
Slow emergence = fleabeetles it seems, although your pioneer probably had helix vs prosper from brett young? Im guessing that, dont know for sure, we havent sprayed for fleabeetles since 2015 but this year we sprayed outside rounds and some fields that were bordering other canola acres that were heavily infested. Some areS are worse than others.
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Check closely for cutworms too. When scratching the surface down 1/4" or so, in a few spots I was finding the empty seed casings but no plant nearby. Seems the cutworms were eating some plants shortly after germination but just before emergence.
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Slow emergence = fleabeetles it seems, although your pioneer probably had helix vs prosper from brett young? Im guessing that, dont know for sure, we havent sprayed for fleabeetles since 2015 but this year we sprayed outside rounds and some fields that were bordering other canola acres that were heavily infested. Some areS are worse than others.

The Pioneer had Lumiderm and believe the Brett Young had Helix?? The thing is, there were almost no bites at all in the Pioneer stuff right beside the BY, for the treatments to work, the plant has to be bitten, the treatment doesn't just deter them from biting as far as I know. I'm wondering if the plants have something different to them, maybe fine hairs or something like that that the beetles don't like?

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Any difference with TKW and plant stands ? Seeded pioneer beside LL, TKW was higher on pioneer, seed rate accounted for that. Pioneer looked better out of the gate.
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our best is Dekalb 7565..Better than 92sc..
Neighbors Invigor is poor compared to ours..He seeds 4 days earlier?
We use Visio + Fortenza for beetles and cutworms..28 days coverage..
Sure nice to blast weeds at the .66 rate of roundup..
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The Pioneer had Lumiderm and believe the Brett Young had Helix?? The thing is, there were almost no bites at all in the Pioneer stuff right beside the BY, for the treatments to work, the plant has to be bitten, the treatment doesn't just deter them from biting as far as I know. I'm wondering if the plants have something different to them, maybe fine hairs or something like that that the beetles don't like?
Lumiderm and Helix are not even in the same league, so can't compare between them. If the BY was treated with Lumiderm it would have been just the same.

Also here anything seeded before May 20 had issues, kinda like most years recently.

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