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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-04-2019, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
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Viper carryover?

Anyone ever think they had viper carryover effect canola( RR&Invigor) grown on pea stubble?

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We’ve had it two years in a row.

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Does BASF still tell you it’s ok to use viper- they tried to say my trash management & seeding depth were the problem- but my seeding into wheat stubble with same air drill ( flexicoil 5000) was fine- a neighbor who does a bunch of custom seeding with a John Deere conserv- pak said fields that had viper applied were terrible-how much moisture do you need for it to be ok- I’ve never had this happen before- last year was very dry- but we did have moisture at harvest time
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Last year BASF was calling farmers warning them about residual from the dry conditions.
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haven't seen it but have heard about it on some drier soil south of here.....


BASF did not do a particularly good job of basically saying "after seeing damage in dry conditions in 2018 we do not want non Imi tolerant canola planted on Imazamox residue this year"


would have saved themselves some headache!!!!!!


But anyone working with an agronomist should have been warned against seeding canola on that ground this year. the issues were known from 18.


The fact that mustard never was on the re crop list was always a red flag for me that in some certain condition canola could probably show damage too.
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Does BASF still tell you itís ok to use viper- they tried to say my trash management & seeding depth were the problem- but my seeding into wheat stubble with same air drill ( flexicoil 5000) was fine- a neighbor who does a bunch of custom seeding with a John Deere conserv- pak said fields that had viper applied were terrible-how much moisture do you need for it to be ok- Iíve never had this happen before- last year was very dry- but we did have moisture at harvest time
It was still on the label this year so technically they have to stand behind it. By the time we realized the issue in 2018 we had already sprayed the peas. I donít know how dealing with a rep will go this year, all Iíve done is call and put a claim in.

I was told imaxozone(I think thatís the active in solo and viper) needs 4Ē of rain to be safe the following year.
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Might be the first time imazamox has actually hurt anything
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Seen it beside me on neighbors canola last year. Lest that’s what they figured. Nasty

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we had some carry over in canola and durum last year, they gave us a cheque for 3600 or something for damage on a 100ac field of durum that got hurt bad. rep came out and walked the field for an hour or so to assess damage. Canola was not covered because it is in the label to not recrop non clearfield canola the next year.
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