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chemicals to stay away from?

Any chemicals to stay away from handling wise? Salesman pushing lorsban, but I have read some bad things on it.

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Nothing wrong with Lorsban. As with any insecticide, they are potentially more hazardous than most fungicides, which are more potentially more hazardous than most herbicides. Take care, use appropriate PPE, wash up before lunch, etc.

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In general chemicals like lorban that kill insects are more hazardous than chemicals that kill weeds. We have used Lorsban and it is one of the chemical that I hate the most. It is not one that you want to get splashed on or breath the fumes from.
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I know a lot of guys who won't spray paraquat since they heard that drinking a teaspoon of it will kill you (I guess they didn't know you aren't supposed to drink it).

However out of all the farming accidents we have had around our area, exactly zero have been related to chemicals (and if there were, it would be due to mishandling/not following the label). My Dad just smashed the heck out of his right hand while moving a small landscape trailer. The things that will hurt you in this business are the little jobs that you never think twice about. While I know of several farmers who won't spray "dangerous" chemicals, these same guys have no problem riding a three wheeler 45mph in a rough pasture with no helmet while talking on a cell phone.

We have alfalfa so we have sprayed about every insecticide out there. The potato guys have to use even hotter stuff (Check out the US label for Mocap). Use caution, common sense, and the proper PPE and you'll be just fine. In the end it's all your farm and your choice of what to do. But I see no reason to limit yourself with information based on vague opinions and unfounded concerns. This job has enough real worries, lets not make any more of them.
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Any chemical can kill you or make you sick. Just depends on exposure. Like said earlier, common sense, proper handling, and correct PPE you will be fine.

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alcohol. its a class 1 carcinogen and extremely harmful to many organs.
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Dry lorsban isn't too bad other dry insecticides are worse. I don't like to spray liquid lorsban though. We used capture and some other liquid insecticides that were pretty nasty. A frieend of the family got some I believe it was force insecticide granules in his coat and for like three days every time he wore the coat he thought he was having a heart attack till he figured it out and threw the coat away.
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alcohol. its a class 1 carcinogen and extremely harmful to many organs.
And tobacco, marijuana, and other drugs, both legal and illegal.

I used to be amazed by people who got all bent out of shape over some rumored carcinogen or something with a LD50 of 5,000, but would smoke weed from Mexico (back when the DEA was drenching the Mexican weed with Paraquat) or take anything somebody would give them as long as it made them high.
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And tobacco, marijuana, and other drugs, both legal and illegal.

I used to be amazed by people who got all bent out of shape over some rumored carcinogen or something with a LD50 of 5,000, but would smoke weed from Mexico (back when the DEA was drenching the Mexican weed with Paraquat) or take anything somebody would give them as long as it made them high.

LD50 of Lorsban 2000mg/kg

LD50 of Caffein 127mg/kg

LD50 of Cannabis 130mg/kg

LD50 of Nicotine 50mg/kg

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The LD50 of caffeine, street drugs, and others is low because of the effect on the heart. Once the heart stops it game over. Loresban is not likely going to stop your heart but screw up your nervous system and others which can have serious long term effects if you get enough exposure.

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