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post #11 of 40 (permalink) Old 05-21-2018, 05:46 PM
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Discovering this as well. Am not happy about it. Urea sulphate blend
Are any of you guys using oil coolers on your fan intakes? If you warm that air up BEFORE it comes into contact with fert it will very much reduce the amount of problems. Works in OZ anyway and theres now a manufacturer selling the idea in NA.

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Yes there are lots of those around here too. It probably helps. I’ve been using the same blend for years without anything like this happening and there was a lot of guys having problems last year too. The thing that bothers me the most is that the fertlizer company claims that there is nothing they can do and it’s not thier problem after it leaves thier facility. They are burying thier heads in the sand cause there’s other products out there.


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Is it just because the urea and sulfur are mixed together that's causing this? We put urea down with one drill and never have anything like this and I put the sulfur down while seeding in it's own air stream with nothing like this either. We pick it up right from the dealer too so that maybe helps.

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Discovering this as well. Am not happy about it. Urea sulphate blend
Thatís what ours looks like too just different brand of drill

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Im putting down 20-0-0-24 along with 46-0-0 through my MRB and phos with the seed never had a problem. I use to blend my sulfur and nitrogen and had a real wreck a couple years ago when it wouldn't come out of the bins and had to drill from the top down to get it out now I only store my 46 and phos for the winter and pick up the sulfur as I need it.
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Is it just because the urea and sulfur are mixed together that's causing this? We put urea down with one drill and never have anything like this and I put the sulfur down while seeding in it's own air stream with nothing like this either. We pick it up right from the dealer too so that maybe helps.
Yes. It is the sulpher combining with the blend (mostly urea i'm guessin). Combine it with the right conditions, usually humidity and it becomes that brown looking paste that Remoth posted a picture of. I had the exact same thing with my drill 2 years running with canola blends.

The fertilizer retailer will say they haven't seen it before, and your the only guy having issues.
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I still wonder about the phosphorus being partly the problem because the caked up stuck on stuff is all mostly brown particles. Is this happening at all with just 46 and 20-0-0-24?
Or is just when all 3 products are blended

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This is after 100 acres the sensor is totally covered.
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Be careful and make sure you get an analysis on that terrible biosul stuff as there seems to be people who do not think it works - lol. However, it sure is nice not to deal with drill issues in the Spring as Phosphate/potash of any color does not seem to cause problems - unless it has rocks in it that get by your screen. In fact, even if it sends the anti-tillage Nazis take off on a rant my life is so much easier/economical incorporating most fertilizer in late Fall with one of those nasty vertical tillage things and is it ever nice to seed/plant into in the Spring. Fighting with MRBs and many times more fert fills/issues when it great seeding conditions really is frustrating. Year 2 with planter for canola with only the "bad" liquid phos down with very little seed(into land with biosul yr 2 and 3) and did that ever happen in a hurry - I am sure it will be a bad crop.

I do not see it mentioned, but would be curious if people using that s15 stuff in canola blends are having any issues with? I would think not, but may be good to know in future.
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The amonium sulfate is horrible this year. We are being told that the amonium sulfate out of the States that came to Western Canada had high humidity or moisture levels. It seems worse with the phosphorus that is tan rather than like black rocks. We had lots of problems and am glad I am done applying the sulfur blends for this season.

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