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Westeel hoppers vs Stealth

Have a bunch of flat bottom 14ft bins with floors starting to go bad. Would like to put some up on hoppers. Priced some Westeel retros with a skid and they $4300ish without air and with are in the $5600 range. How do Westeel cones differ from some of the other cones out there?

Looking and cones from Stealth bins in Vegerville. Look identical and are priced way more realistic. Any experience with them?

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That's extremely high price for a 14' cone!!!! You can get a 18 or 19' for that price. I suggest you look for a local manufacturer who has a reputation for quality build.

I bought 2 14' couple years ago for $2800 a piece.

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Not sure where in central AB you're at. Bought several of these hoppers last fall. Actually they had 5' extensions on them and was way cheaper than buying rings.

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Picked them up by Hairy Hill. Well put together and good paint outside and primered inside. The retros we bought about ten years ago weren't painted inside.
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If you do a complete job of pricing cones and bins of every combination, you will sell you 14 bins for about $500 as is where is.
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That's extremely high price for a 14' cone!!!! You can get a 18 or 19' for that price. I suggest you look for a local manufacturer who has a reputation for quality build.

I bought 2 14' couple years ago for $2800 a piece.
Most of the time it's the same $ to buy a hopper made local as from Sask with freight. My neighbour just put up two 18' s and it was cheaper from M&K than Miller or Harvest.
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After you figure out the cost of the cone, installation, no aeration, and its an old bin why do it? We did a couple cone retrofits a few years ago. I should have bought an 1805s then. The time and money would have been better spent. You don't have to switch bins as often and the $ spent would be a nice down payment on 1805. Smaller bins are nice for seed or when you have smaller quantities. A few years ago a bunch of 14' hopper bins sold at auction to fairly strong demand, they were 5 rings high too. Today I don't think that would happen. This is just my experience, after doing it my POV changed.

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After you figure out the cost of the cone, installation, no aeration, and its an old bin why do it? We did a couple cone retrofits a few years ago. I should have bought an 1805s then. The time and money would have been better spent. You don't have to switch bins as often and the $ spent would be a nice down payment on 1805. Smaller bins are nice for seed or when you have smaller quantities. A few years ago a bunch of 14' hopper bins sold at auction to fairly strong demand, they were 5 rings high too. Today I don't think that would happen. This is just my experience, after doing it my POV changed.
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If you do a complete job of pricing cones and bins of every combination, you will sell you 14 bins for about $500 as is where is.
You are so right, but my problem is then I think well for $500 I might as well just keep them for that one year in ten that you might be a bit short on space and then you get a couple good years in a row, then the rail system lets us down and all of a sudden you find yourself shoveling out those **** 14' bins three years in a row, but agree it does not make economic sense to put hoppers under them.
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After you figure out the cost of the cone, installation, no aeration, and its an old bin why do it? We did a couple cone retrofits a few years ago. I should have bought an 1805s then. The time and money would have been better spent. You don't have to switch bins as often and the $ spent would be a nice down payment on 1805. Smaller bins are nice for seed or when you have smaller quantities. A few years ago a bunch of 14' hopper bins sold at auction to fairly strong demand, they were 5 rings high too. Today I don't think that would happen. This is just my experience, after doing it my POV changed.
I will also second this. What I would do is get a used bin sweep off kijiji for $500 and put that on an auger. then you just keep those little bins for overflow in good years. This is what we do. Have 8 1650s and 3 3200s that are on good cement, not going to put on hoppers but use the sweep. Its just a few bins that is for overflow. Doesn't take much to bin sweep out a 14' bin. Plus they are great for storing clean seed without needing to spend big $$.
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Last 14' hopper cone I bought were around 2900 with an aeration tube in them. They supplied the crane for us to use. If a 14' bin is only worth $500 and a cone is $3000 you have $3500 for 2200 bu of storage about a $1.60/bu. A hopper is way nicer for seed and easier to clean out then a flat with a sweep. I like having some small bins around for left over grain that doesn't fit in a bigger bin.

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