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New season, new ground, new crop

Turning over some old pasture ready for a bit of winter wheat. Had a lot of rain here recently but with a bit of sun and some wind the ground is turning over nicely.

Lime all ready to go on, triple super phosphate to be applied after phosphates showed up low.

Variety to be drilled is called Revelation, bred by Limagrain, going in next week at 325 seeds/m2 or about 65kg/acre.


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Do you get eyespot if sowing into pasture ground?...I do beans as first crop now...then wheat...

Revelation set the world record this year...

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Hi Ant

I only just saw this.

Yes you can get eyespot amongst other things from sowing into ground behind old pasture, but you can tailor your fungicide program to take account of it.

I would rather drill the wheat as a first crop, as I can kill anything in wheat, beans my hands are very much tied.

I'll take a picture of the cropping emerging, I'll be going back in a week or so.

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And the reason for ploughing?...and 65kg/ha for 325 seeds sqm..how light is this wheat?

I'm getting predicta B soil test done on my block to see if it's beans or wheat next year..

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Hi Ant

With the amount of turf on top, you really need to plough to get it out of the way before you have a hope of drilling into it. Also, I want fairly clear dirt before any pre-em chemistry has a hope of working.

The idea is we will grow this wheat and use it to clean the land up, wholecrop it for silage and then re-seed it with some grass.

65kg/acre seed rate or about 160kg/ha, sorry. I think the thousand grain weight was about 50, but I cant remember, it was a variety we had to source from the east of the country, the rest of our own seed grain has been a lot heavier.

Here is a reseed of grass coming up for comparison.

Also, regards soil testing, how do you differ according to beans or wheat? I test the dirt and sort it according to what we need, I wouldn't let a soil test result determine which crop I grew, if you see what I mean?


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Hi Ant

Maybe I have some dirt which you might find more recognisable? This black organic stuff, low pH and pretty nasty.

Also, what do you reckon on one of these soil test results? I've just done some on some of the black land type stuff, should get them back this week.






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Glad to see I'm not the only one who still uses a plow on hay ground.

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Glad to see I'm not the only one who still uses a plow on hay ground.

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Also doing mouldboard ploughing here as well, seems to give a pretty good finish once you rotary hoe it to produce a fine seed bed.

What type of crown do you plough with a machine of that size, we only use a 3 furrow Kverneland mouldboard with plastic boards?
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What type of crown do you plough with a machine of that size, we only use a 3 furrow Kverneland mouldboard with plastic boards?
The Crown is interesting to make. We are not so worried about a tall crown as subsequent tillage passes level it out quite well. Basically I make the first pass by adjusting the front furrow wheel so the front bottom is cutting about 75% of plowing depth. I then turn around and overlap the front bottom but set it to full plowing depth. It makes a pretty good ridge down the 1/2 mile run, but a trip down that ridge with an offset disk levels it out pretty well. It is NOT competition plowing by any means!

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The Crown is interesting to make. We are not so worried about a tall crown as subsequent tillage passes level it out quite well. Basically I make the first pass by adjusting the front furrow wheel so the front bottom is cutting about 75% of plowing depth. I then turn around and overlap the front bottom but set it to full plowing depth. It makes a pretty good ridge down the 1/2 mile run, but a trip down that ridge with an offset disk levels it out pretty well. It is NOT competition plowing by any means!

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That looks pretty good to me? Never easy in deep old turf, particularly with no vari-width and a conventional plough!

I'd be happy with that. I've seen a LOT worse believe me.


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