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Farm-saved seed royalties

What's everyone's thoughts on paying a royalty for seed that you already own?

Personally this sounds like another way to squeeze more money from farmers. But I'd like to hear other's thoughts.

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Jesus. Are seed growers not extracting enough blood already in the amount we have to pay up front for new varieties? Have fun regulating this crap.

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Three questions:
>When was the last time any government did something that made it easier for the farmer to run his/her business?
>Will every other country around the world be implementing the same measures that are a direct cost to farmers?
>Is there a problem with seed companies going broke lately?

You can probably gauge my level of support from those questions...

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They are taking cues from Apple and Deere; license to use and the consumer never actually owns the product. It would be nice if they had more than one consultation per province so the grassroots opposition could be better quantified.

Edit: Just spoke to my local Sask Wheat commission director(who posts on here) who said it is best to contact AAFC to voice concerns. I will update this post with that when I get it. It sounds like this change is being rushed through with minimal consultation. The meeting in Saskatoon is only a 50 seat room. Greatly deficient when this will fundamentally change how the industry is structured.

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I thought Europe or England already had this. I can not imagine Monsanto letting you keep seed back and paying a royalty .Too much money on the table
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Don't know about everyone else but between this and the carbon tax and all the other bull**** I am really losing interest in this hobby we call farming. Hobby- Something that you enjoy but don't make any money at.
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Im not a farmer but have been involved in ag all my adult life so bear that isn mind. Here are my thoughts. I think it's BS. However, IF they are going to implement this, then it should come with the condition that NO existing varieties are EVER deregistered. This way, any varieties that require the royalty paid would have to have ACTUAL financial benefit to the producer or they just won't seed it and stick with the older, non-royalty varieties. They would have to actually EARN the royalty, not just extort it out of the producers. This would put an end to the perpetual "X% better than the check (Y variety) that we all know is BS in most cases. If these new varieties that have been coming out over the last 20 years REALLY performed better than the check by the claimed yield, we would be averaging over 100 BPA by now.
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It is getting pretty close to just folding up and just go retire some place and try to enjoy the rest of my life before my crippled old ass gets too bad to do anything else.
When the assets sold are greater than earning potential till retiring age, time to pull the pin.
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Yes just one more step towards us being their servants. Getting very close to not actually ever owning anything we have or use, such as technology, the grain we grow, and the banks pretty much own the rest. It's getting sickening, I'm almost on the verge of telling the whole world to go F*#K itself and leave me alone.


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