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Oat varieties [Alberta friendly]

Cant decide if I should do barley or oats this year, have 300 acres set aside for either. I'm thinking there will be a bunch of barley acres this year, so leaning to giving oats a whirl.
We really have only grown Morgan, and it has performed well [150 bu/acre] here.

But was thinking of trying something new to us, something perhaps dwarf to cut down on the straw.... (were gonna demo a lemkin this spring, but dont have much other than good straw choppers to deal with trash)

Any experiences with good yielding, short varieties of oats in Alberta?

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About 1/2 way down for oats.
https://www.seed.ab.ca/variety-trials/cereals/

I’m trying to figure out what “Alberta Friendly” means you?

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I’m trying to figure out what “Alberta Friendly” means you?
What works good out east may not be as good for me....
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I'm growing oats, so you should grow barley!

No experience with anything other than Morgan. Last year we had maybe half of it done before the snow, the rest survived the snows with little lodging.
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What works good out east may not be as good for me....
True but what do you consider your challenges?
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True but what do you consider your challenges?
Well here after the last couple years, I'd say you need an ultra early variety that grows well in a summer of forest fire smoke and holds its color for a month or more of rain in September. Better throw in good standability through wet snow in October and doesn't taste good to ducks, geese and Bambi for when it has to sit over winter.

Probably could just add another column and call it the "crappy fall index" in the seed guide. Lol.

I'm hoping this was just a couple years of exceptional circumstances but, I have made drastic changes to my rotation preparing for another wet, miserable fall.

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Haven't found a dwarf in oats that comes close to Morgan, it is really hard to beat. Would like it for stripping. Nassar was crap.

You could always cut high, then there isn't as much straw
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I can weigh in, I have grown many varieties of oats over the years, and barleys.

First off, if you didn't pre price any oats this next year, I'd walk away from seeding oats. Lots of guys went heavy into oats as the prices got as high as $3.65/bu, which is crazy. But oats futures have really been taking some hits as guys prebooked oats contracts like crazy, I too prebooked a lot, as I knew this would drive the price down like crazy.

The oats market is also smaller then one might think, prices look good, but that's because seeded oats acres have been dropping for quite a while steadily. Also oats is under threat of glyphosate bans, so unless you are comfortable swathing, because at any moment buyers can get pissy and slap bans on. I don't see glyph being an issue yet, but it is coming down the pipe.

I would seed barley if you have no futures booked, as there is a bigger market, provided you grow (or try) malt.

If you do choose oats (as many people do opposite of what I'd do) I'd recommend Morgan oats, it is the best western Canadian oats variety I have ever seeded. Even tried newer ones such as Camden, Ruffian , they had promising disease packages and short straw and yield, but didn't thresh as good (ruffian too good, with excessive dehulls) or yield as promised.
Only thing I don't like about Morgan is it's height. But for me, it's a good white, plump oats which I have had my personal best oat yield of 208bu/ac.. crop was about 5'6" tall.
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True but what do you consider your challenges?
Ooooh.... not a whole lot I'm worried about... I guess the biggest thing is the growing season, time frame. To a certain extent our soil conditions.

Looks like I'll probably stick with Morgan. Sound like it performs well for many.
I just hope it stays up this year!

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Ooooh.... not a whole lot I'm worried about... I guess the biggest thing is the growing season, time frame. To a certain extent our soil conditions.

Looks like I'll probably stick with Morgan. Sound like it performs well for many.
I just hope it stays up this year!
Thanks, does sound/look like Morgan a good choice.

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Well here after the last couple years, I'd say you need an ultra early variety that grows well in a summer of forest fire smoke and holds its color for a month or more of rain in September. Better throw in good standability through wet snow in October and doesn't taste good to ducks, geese and Bambi for when it has to sit over winter.

Probably could just add another column and call it the "crappy fall index" in the seed guide. Lol.
Ha ha, CFI!

Can’t wait to see plant breeders breed out good taste to ducks, geese and Bambi idea.
Likely would mean nothing else would like it either!

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