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kochia in peas -- bag, air bin or desicate?

Have randon kochia plants in my peas and the odd thicker patch of kochia. Peas look to be a 60 bus crop and will be ripe at harvest time. Average combine sample will be dry, but the kochia seeds will be immature. No sprayer tracks in the crop at this time.

Do I bag them and hope the moisture equalizes and they store or,

Put them in an air bin and run the fan for a couple of nights hoping the moisture equalizes and stores? Not sure if the tough kochia seeds will all collect in the center and be a problem, or

Desicate them and run the crop down. Sprayer will probably trample 3% as crop dividers don't work in peas. That will cost 60 bus x 3% x $6.25/bus = $11.25/ac in lost crop plus chemical and sprayer cost, so say $25-30/ac. Which product will do the best job on the kochia? Thinking straight roundup. Rain here the last few days and the kochia looks to be quite green yet, so should be actively growing.

Grain bags at 8 cents/bus on 60 bus crop is $4.80/ac
Air bins I have, so just out the energy cost to run the fan, as long as the bins don't heat,
Desication will have the peas driest, but at a bigger cost.

Any issues with dirt tag on the peas from the moist Kochia seed?

Ideas? I am leaning to the grain bag route.

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Do you have the balls to swath them and wait a week? Maybe that could solve all of the problems.

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Get a plane and reglone. Double up the surfactant.

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Do NOT try to blend in green patches with the rest of the field. I would cut around the patches and if the rest of the field is the odd plant as you say then just harvest them and hit with air a bit. Then go spray patches with something and wait to dry down if there is enough peas to bother, or just disc them if not.

I suppose if the sample is pretty clean and dry then bag if you don't want to tie up bins.

Green material is a problem for ending up in the sample unfortunately.
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SW X2 on going around the patches. If they are like the kochia patches I’m used to, there will be bugger all in them. Swath, spray, then combine or disc after to clean up the patches. Odd plant should be ok, put in air bin.

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not brave enough to swath them. Wind rolls ripe pea swaths easily. I used to swath an hour ahead of the combine and still had wind issues.
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Just spray them with roundup and cut at an angle to the sprayer tracks. Unless it's wet and you make ruts you're not going to be out everything that you trample.
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Combine around the kochia spots and go back and run them through the combine at the end. Then look at what's in the hopper and decide if it's worth keeping or not. Throw on the top of an air bin? Maybe. In the middle? Probably not.
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That kochia is nasty stuff.
Doesn't dry down well at all.
If the kochia is just a few patches why not combine those areas separate and then run the peas through one of the rotary cleaners?
Those rotary cleaners work well on seeds with a big difference in size.
If we are not talking a big amount of bushels.

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