Re: A-C SP-40 All Crop self-propelled combine - The Combine Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-20-2007, 07:41 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,381
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Re: A-C SP-40 All Crop self-propelled combine

David, I have honestly NEVER even heard of any self-propelled Model 40 All Crop. The ONLY SP All Crop I have seen or even read about, was the Model 100. The 100 is basically a Model 90 made into an SPC, powered by a Wisconsin gas engine.

There was a Model 40, but it was only a pull-type. It was NOT the first All Crop, either. In fact, the Model 40 was a stab at the straight-through design market, after the fashion of the M-H Clipper, J.D. 10-12-A and such, but real Allis-Chalmers combine buyers wanted the TRUE All Crop with its L-shaped configuration. As a result, only a small amount of the 3' cut or so Model 40's were made. Yes, all the 40's are now sought after by collectors.







To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
combiness is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-22-2007, 09:02 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,381
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Re: A-C SP-40 All Crop self-propelled combine

Ahah! Now that confirms BOTH of our stories. No, it was not made that way by Allis-Chalmers, but most definitely an SP Model 40!

Three out of only five built, is an amazing track record. I just wish one Model 10 John Deere still existed. Only ten were built.







To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
combiness is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-05-2008, 10:47 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Re: A-C SP-40 All Crop self-propelled combine

allis -chalmers made the 40 pull-type only from 1938-1940. the john deere 12-a is the prototype 60 straight through machine that they tried , but it failed in the field trials and all blueprints and tooling was sold to john deere.
combinechris is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-05-2008, 11:45 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,381
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Re: A-C SP-40 All Crop self-propelled combine

Everyone's small PTC's were full-width/straight-through, but only the All Crops were L-shaped and how they were successful, too!





To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
combiness is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-18-2011, 05:43 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: southeast missouri
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
sp 40

I have seen a picture of a sp 40 in a book somewhere. I think it was modified by a seed company for work in seed plots. Neat looking machine.
Charley Boy is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-11-2011, 09:36 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 342
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by combinechris View Post
allis -chalmers made the 40 pull-type only from 1938-1940. the john deere 12-a is the prototype 60 straight through machine that they tried , but it failed in the field trials and all blueprints and tooling was sold to john deere.
I would like to know were you got the info because I think you are completely wrong.
jd95guy is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-13-2011, 12:55 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 376
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I think I've seen a pic of a 40 All Crop. I think it was shown in England. May have been made into a self propelled there.
redpainter is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-29-2012, 02:34 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Smile Yes, there was a sp 40 all crop

There was a self propelled 40 all crop made.

Was it officially made by AC, well no....
It has a standard 40 with a AC "G" drive train mounted on top.
Somebody's special project, kind of neat though.

Here is a link to photos, wait for the page to load and scroll to the bottom
This unit sold in 2008 at auction.

Aumann Auctions, Inc. - Mrotek Allis Chalmers Collection

Last edited by buckeyefarmer86; 06-29-2012 at 02:37 PM.
buckeyefarmer86 is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-14-2015, 10:25 AM
Junior Member
 
Allcrops collector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Wittenberg, Wisconsin
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The model 40 was only a pull type. Some were made into a SP by universities for plot use. The JD 12/12A is an Allis Chalmers prototype 60 combine. It was a straight through design of the 60 all crop,but field performance didn't match the production 60. The prototype and all tooling were sold to John Deere.
Allcrops collector is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-15-2015, 10:08 AM
Junior Member
 
Allcrops collector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Wittenberg, Wisconsin
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
From Norm swinford personally. I spent a whole afternoon talking to the gentleman at an A-C show I helped at in Davis, I'll. He also sent me pictures of the two prototypes of the two straight through machines Allis was working on in '58-'59. The new model 90 and the SP110 jd95guy.

Allcrops collector is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Combine Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Self-propelled Mideum Combine Paddy Harvester With Cutting Width 1.5m farmmachinery For Sale/Want to Buy 0 09-16-2013 04:30 AM
Re: tractor vs self propelled sprayer? lentilgrower Tractors 13 07-12-2009 05:03 PM
Re: self propelled chaser bin? davedan Grain Carts 3 03-11-2009 12:35 AM
Re: Agco Self-propelled Choppers? thewanderer Forage Harvesting 10 06-15-2008 05:21 PM
Re: Haybines or Self Propelled Windrowers cihmx270 Tractors 4 01-07-2007 09:28 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome