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Massey Harris 44

I can get my hands on a old massey 44 gas. I've always wanted to fix up one of these old girls but my knowledge, time and space is limited at times.

What am I looking at if I go ahead with this. The engine is locked up. Tires are shot. Tin is rough in parts. Are parts readily available for these somewhere or is it a long drawn out hunt for them? Is there any complex parts to them or is it all a pretty straight forward nuts and bolts? Are they a 12v system or 6v?

It was my grandfather's tractor and has been sitting for years, but it needs a new home now. So am debating if it's worth dragging back to my yard to either have a project or maybe a lane ornament.

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Its surprising what I've been able to get from Agco for an old Massey TEA20 and Ferguson FE35. I'd check with a good parts person at your local AGCO for a rough idea of what they have.

And check Steiner tractor parts website. You'll be able to get a rough idea of what's available.

I've done a few old tractors. 2 more on the list and then I'm done. But they all have had some sentimental value. Easier to do than a car, truck or airplane. And cheaper. Trust me. As long as you can get what parts you need

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Even just to hold down the grass, thats part of your family history, bring it home.
Those actually have a Continental engine in them. Lots of aftermarket parts available which is most common source of new, and in this part of the country they sell between $500 to 2K depending on condition, so often a parts tractor or two is a good investment if you need much.
Most are 6V but I have seen them converted to 12, and possibly the later ones may have come with 12, I'd have to check. Don't have the factory books but do have hardcover jobber ones from the 50s and 60s that would show what all was available, been while since I tinkered with one. Those old books often have info you don't see in modern reprints. If it is 6, it most likely be positive ground as well.
Those old Masseys were a good unit in their time. Not sure if it is still in huge demand, but for years the pullers would build their units with a Massey 55 back end, that should tell you something lol.

And for that stuck engine, fill it full of diesel and let it soak, time is your friend. Might not be that bad and even if it is, that soaking will make it easier to deal with when you tear it down.

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I assume it will be a 6 volt system with a generator and most likely a positive ground system. That at least seemed to be the situation from the factory from what I gather and if there is an old battery installed even though it would be split open, look closely at the post markings on the battery to confirm that. I suppose its always possible someone changed the system components so I guess one can't take anything for granted.
I see AlbertaBuck posted as I was typing ... in any event it can play on the mind as one boosts a positive ground unit as it doesn't seem right to attach the cables with the positive to the frame.

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And for that stuck engine, fill it full of diesel and let it soak, time is your friend. Might not be that bad and even if it is, that soaking will make it easier to deal with when you tear it down.
I've heard of this... do I dump the oil then just fill the bottom end with fuel or should I be getting it on top the pistons as well.

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if there is an old battery installed even though it would be split open, look closely at the post markings on the battery to confirm that. I suppose its always possible someone changed the system components so I guess one can't take anything for granted.
I'm assuming it's a 6v as well but there is no battery in it so not sure. Would it be marked anywhere else what system it would be, on the starter or something, or is there a way to tell the differences?
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One thing you can do which I can only guess would tell someone who is familiar with the alternator and starter, is to look for the tag on each component and write those numbers down. Also look for anything that seems modified or seems to look factory. As to the polarity, this is stretching it a bit but if the battery cable ends are in tact and if whoever took the cables off the battery didn't go and stretch one of the ends wide open, look for the cable that has the larger hole diameter and if its the cable that connects to the engine block, its a good chance your dealing with the factory positive ground system.
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Does it have lights? Pull a bulb and see if the voltage is printed on the back. The generator should have a tag on it too.
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Does it have lights? Pull a bulb and see if the voltage is printed on the back. The generator should have a tag on it too.
I'll have to try this when i go to pick it up. See if I can come up with something.
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Diesel in the top of the pistons is far more important than the bottom end. I like a 50-50 mix of diesel and ATF. Seafoam Deep Creep is my go to penetrant in an aerosol for when stuff is really stuck.
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Diesel in the top of the pistons is far more important than the bottom end. I like a 50-50 mix of diesel and ATF. Seafoam Deep Creep is my go to penetrant in an aerosol for when stuff is really stuck.
Perhaps I should have explained that better...when I said fill it full, I mean full top to bottom, crankcase, cylinders, intake and exhaust, everything except water jacket.


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