What's your average machine & head loss in canola? - The Combine Forum
View Poll Results: % total losses in canola
Unsure 5 20.00%
< 1 1 4.00%
1 2 8.00%
2 6 24.00%
3 8 32.00%
4 2 8.00%
5 0 0%
6 0 0%
7 0 0%
>7 1 4.00%
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What's your average machine & head loss in canola?

I realise that every year & every canola crop is different, so I'm just after some information for an upcoming project I may be involved in.

(If I knew how to format a proper poll here it would be a whole lot easier)

<1%
1% - 3%
35 - 5%
>5%
Hmmm ..... not sure ... don't know.


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In my area of Washington State we grow 20-25 bu spring canola and 50-60 bu winter canola. I try to get loss out the back of the combine below 3%, its not easy. I have very little head loss with the header I have.

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We try to be under 1%. I Think the difficulty most of us have is figuring out how many bushels per acre the seeds on our screen amount to when not having a scale in the field to weigh the seeds. Header loss with the straight cut varieties is very low. The canola the seeds we throw out the back are a loss financially and more importantly for us create a bad volunteer weed problem next year. Some of the guys around us that had a lot of volunteer canola they did not control early enough this spring suffered quite a bit of yield loss with the dry conditions.
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We try to be under 1%. I Think the difficulty most of us have is figuring out how many bushels per acre the seeds on our screen amount to when not having a scale in the field to weigh the seeds. Header loss with the straight cut varieties is very low. The canola the seeds we throw out the back are a loss financially and more importantly for us create a bad volunteer weed problem next year. Some of the guys around us that had a lot of volunteer canola they did not control early enough this spring suffered quite a bit of yield loss with the dry conditions.
Yes, scales in the field are not a real practical option. Theyíre bound to get lost or some other large & heavy piece of gear will be thrown on top of them. 😢
You can use Harvest calc to work out you losses as a percentage, by weight, by $/ha etc.etc. Itís very easy to use.
A very low percentage loss in canola is often hard to achieve ....... itís just the nature of the beast! All machines will loose some grain. Fine seeds are even more difficult to retain & some conditions make it even more difficult.

Thereís a claim by a researcher in WA that has said there is around 10% loss of canola from harvesters!
All growers & contractors that Iíve spoken to said this is BS.
The researcher has now said ďthis was an estimateĒ
So Iím just sounding out what other people think or know, what their loss percentage is.
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What sort of average yield you thinking Rod?
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Made my own chart in corner off drop pan , put marks down in one corner for canola 1/2 bu 1 bu 1 1/2 bu other corner for wht .
Clean grain and put seed in corner .
No scale in field needed , and good enough to the picture.
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What sort of average yield you thinking Rod?
Yes, that is a very important point. Lower yields are (sometimes) the hardest times to keep your losses to a low percentage level.
So, to "normalise" the loss percentage I'd suggest to think of your average yields for your farm/area.
In our area, 1.6t/ha would be a number that would be close to our area average. Since most of our canola is windrowed - (there's a long explanation of why this is still the practice here) - pickup loss is common to be over 1%. Machine (separator) loss is common to be around or over 1.5%. These factors can change dramatically as it depends upon the crop & the conditions.
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I figured out how much equals 1 bushel in a 35 ft canola swath, 5 ft wide combine, catching all the straw. Figured it out and weighed the results, and poured it into a 2 fl ounce or 100 ml measuring container. Marked the 1 bu mark and used that ever since, found that to be the quickest and easiest "primitive" way. Going by memory 26ml/1 ounce =is very close to 1 bushel... We try and keep canola loss <. 75 bu
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Made my own chart in corner off drop pan , put marks down in one corner for canola 1/2 bu 1 bu 1 1/2 bu other corner for wht .
Clean grain and put seed in corner .
No scale in field needed , and good enough to the picture.
Similar to HarvestCalc trays I presume.
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I figured out how much equals 1 bushel in a 35 ft canola swath, 5 ft wide combine, catching all the straw. Figured it out and weighed the results, and poured it into a 2 fl ounce or 100 ml measuring container. Marked the 1 bu mark and used that ever since, found that to be the quickest and easiest "primitive" way. Going by memory 26ml/1 ounce =is very close to 1 bushel... We try and keep canola loss <. 75 bu
Yep, whatever works & gives you a pretty good idea. But what yield? I'm after the percentage loss.

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