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Tesla is like a prius or smart car. It has it's place but it's not for everyone.
Isn't that true for every vehicle?

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Would you buy one Don?
Depends where that 60 mil went last night!

Not likely, I’m not a great lover of any car, I find ingress and egress a pain in most, a F-150 with power floorboards rapidly spoils one.
Cold weather battery performance is questionable.
Charging stations on a trip require planning and slow things down.

It would be a trip eater though, it handles (very low center of gravity due to battery positioning) well and is very quiet all the time.
Self driving now requires slight steering wheel pressure, not squeezing but marginal steering column movement. Once the knack of this is caught it’s very relaxing to “drive”.
Regenerative braking takes awhile to get use to in the aggressive setting but I love the concept.
Car will only move about a meter without seatbelt done up.
Huge center screen great for almost all functions as well as satellite view navigation, none of those Mickey Mouse nav displays for Tesla!
Trunk on both ends of course, didn’t look in either one.
Passing ability astounding.

Overall a great experience and a great way to test any vehicle one may be looking at, beats the **** out of any normal test drive with those slime salesperson riding with you!

224.89 all in. CAD. Was expecting and prepared to pay far more.

But that energy efficiency though...

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0.23 in oz for electricity if you lucky, solar brings down but they cost $ and they wear out.

The greenies want elec cars, and want high electricty prices? Then under mass adoption the infrastructure needed ramps up?

Whats the life of the tesla battery? And what effeciency does it loose with age?

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In a typical rental situation one fills up the vehicle with fuel just before delivering back or pay way more to have them do it. How did that work and who paid for the electricity or was that built into the rental price ?
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Just built into rental price although it was never brought up. Probably explains 500 km/day setting.

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300,000 km degradation on average is not even 10%. Like all lithium batteries, operate between 20 and 80% and they last a very long time. Don't charge your phone/laptop etc past 80%, or use less then 20%. 40 to 70 is ideal. Lithium has no memory like nicads of old.
So you're saying for best battery life only use 30% of your battery. That's useful.

The 20/80 percent BS is being spread around like wildfire and it's complete hogwash. Phones and laptops have the charge/discharge buffer built into their charge cycles. Charge it to 100% and let it die if you want, it won't make any difference on the battery longevity.

How it works on a car, I have no idea, but I suspect that if you drop $180,000 on an electric car you'd be able to charge your battery to 100% and be able to drive until it's almost dead, which would be risky in any event since I'm sure most places wouldn't be too psyched to see someone charging their car up at their block heater plugs in the parking lot.

I do find it amusing when you see the pictures of tesla owners using a gas powered generator to recharge their cars.
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So heating didn't cut into the range much? When combined with the battery warming system I imagine in our cold winters it could probably reduce the range by a fair amount compared to the summer.
It does. My buddy who lives in the twin cities has one, his mom lives near Roseau MN. In the fall when he got the car he left home and drove to his mom's place on about 1 full charge. He made the trip again a couple of weeks ago when it was chillier out and he had to stop about 2/3's of the way back because he was on electrical fumes... Haha. He figured he had about 2/3 the life running on heat as opposed to running the air conditioner.
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they are lectric, but have a hydrogen engine that charges the batteries. Buildign Hydrogen fueling stations across North america.




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Too dangerous, it will never take off.

Diesel and gas are like water in the event of a collision compared to hydrogen.
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With regards to lithium battery charge, its recommended by DJI that my drone batteries be stored at approx 80% or less to preserve longevity.
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Too dangerous, it will never take off.

Diesel and gas are like water in the event of a collision compared to hydrogen.
Diesel maybe.... gasoline like water, not so much.
No different than propane or CNG.


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