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Tesla P100D!

Couple of weeks ago Laura and I were in TO, wanted to drive to Niagara Falls.
Starting phoning around “normal” car rental shops, sold out!
Hmm, poor planning, Remembrance Day weekend!
Thought, goggle high end car rentals in Toronto.
BMW, Lexus, Audi...then, Tesla P100D. Hmm, wonder.
A site called TURO puts you in contact with people that want to rent their own vehicles directly to you.
Andrew was the gentleman's name, some sort of a high end real estate investor.
180,000$ car and your the only instruction was, “It’s over there”.

100 means 100 kilowatt (KW) battery, D means double motor rear wheel drive.
The front wheels are driven by a third motor.
In the US P100D has Standard, Ludicrous and Enhanced Ludicrous modes, just increasing levels of acceleration.

Enhanced Ludicrous is a standing setup which either cools or warms the battery first to allow highest rate discharge available to put the car in the 2’s 0-100 km making it the hardest accelerating mass produced vehicle on the planet 0 to 100.
However...for a reason not known to me, Tesla in Canada only allows Standard and...wait for it...Chill! Never tried Chill, lol.
Reguardless, I’ve driven fast motorcycles and snowmobiles and even without Ludicrous the P100D is the acceleration champ.

But that not what impressed me the most.
At normal highway cruising the car used 200 watts per km. And keep in mind electric cars use LESS energy in the city per km unlike the Dino powered cousins.
So, at my current power price of 0.05$ a KW, 0.01$ per km.
Let’s compare that with my normal F-150 ride, my glorified grocery hauler.
14 L/100 km, about 1.20 lately, 0.168$’s per km.
16.8 times the cost. Interesting.

Instant heat into the cabin is really neat, it sat at 0 for three hours then we drove as well.

This rented for the day, 500 km included, it had 525 km of charge when we took it, returned it with 140.

Any guesses what the total cost was of my little research project?

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Interesting cars for sure. Lets not forget that the $1.20 for gasoline is an "all-in" price whereas the $.05 price for electricity will have a number of other charges added to it.
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Good point, just a slight effect though.
What maintenance on a Tesla though?
Not much, and what there is how much/often?
Many unknowns.
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$.05 /kw that's cheap power.
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Good point, just a slight effect though.
What maintenance on a Tesla though?
Not much, and what there is how much/often?
Many unknowns.
Aside from possible electrical issues, motors and electronics which who knows how good their longevity would be, isn't the battery replacement the literal 800 pound gorilla in the room, the "surprise bill" factor in maintenance ?. I haven't a clue what the projected lifespan is but isn't that why some of the other brands of electric car became a dead horse because of a high initial cost and then suspect life span of the batteries.

The fact remains so far anyway that electric only vehicles tend to have validity if not traveling too far in the span of a day and have a place to recharge when its parked ( not sure how long they take to recharge ) and long distance driving in shorter spans of time and in cold weather leave us with gas or diesel vehicle options but can't take away the positives for electric within a daily commute distance.

If the owner of the vehicle rents it out, what indeed does he use for transportation I wonder ?
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Aside from possible electrical issues, motors and electronics which who knows how good their longevity would be, isn't the battery replacement the literal 800 pound gorilla in the room, the "surprise bill" factor in maintenance ?. I haven't a clue what the projected lifespan is but isn't that why some of the other brands of electric car became a dead horse because of a high initial cost and then suspect life span of the batteries.

The fact remains so far anyway that electric only vehicles tend to have validity if not traveling too far in the span of a day and have a place to recharge when its parked ( not sure how long they take to recharge ) and long distance driving in shorter spans of time and in cold weather leave us with gas or diesel vehicle options but can't take away the positives for electric within a daily commute distance.

If the owner of the vehicle rents it out, what indeed does he use for transportation I wonder ?

300,000 km degradation on average is not even 10%. Like all lithium batteries, operate between 20 and 80% and they last a very long time. Don't charge your phone/laptop etc past 80%, or use less then 20%. 40 to 70 is ideal. Lithium has no memory like nicads of old.
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Will the new Tesla Semi pull a B-train?
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Elon’s working on it!
https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/semi
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So heating didn't cut into the range much? When combined with the battery warming system I imagine in our cold winters it could probably reduce the range by a fair amount compared to the summer.

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