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Yeah i agree trent and also stats canada is same way, over on agtalk they agree with that. The one example is why do farmers have to say what their inventory is, the oil companies dont have to tell what their inventory is ect.

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USDA is a food stamp distribution agency disguised as a farm agency.

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I believe Trent is on the right track. Right now our government is getting a lot of pressure because of the high food prices so they are trying to lower them.
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Used toilet paper has more value than USDA crop reports!
That's fairly low value.
Some view USDA reports more as entertainment than education.
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USDA is corrupt. Their priority is cheep food for the masses. Stats are spun in that direction.
That applies to the entire government, Washington is nothing but a cesspool of corruption! None of them seem to understand what the constitution says let alone try to abide by it. All any of these worthless agencies are anymore is "social engineering" centers with little regard for common sense of truth - currently running on steroids with the muslim radical in the white house.
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That's fairly low value.
Some view USDA reports more as entertainment than education.
Its hard to believe the markets move so much from the propaganda, some one is drinking the kool aid.....
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That applies to the entire government, Washington is nothing but a cesspool of corruption! None of them seem to understand what the constitution says let alone try to abide by it. All any of these worthless agencies are anymore is "social engineering" centers with little regard for common sense of truth - currently running on steroids with the muslim radical in the white house.
yup !!!
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Mate i have been wondering the same thing and talking to friends about this - they where predicting record world wide production and most of Australia hadnt even had rain and canada was wet and had late snow - same in the US and some frost damage. The body who does this in australia does the same thing every year as well (and get caught out most years). I have no idea off there reasoning ??
At least in good old europe it's going to be a very good harvest, if we manage to bring it in.
Our wheat looks like yeilding more than 10t/ha in average (150 bu/ac), sure there will be corners with 13 t/ha. Canola should also bring more than 5t/ha (75bu/ac + x).

Atleast all the talking about a good harvest let the prices fall Wheat is -30% compared to last year at the moment...
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that should pay a couple bills. Nitrogen on canola tops out at 90 lbs here, how much did you give it arcus? Yield potential here is 30 if we get nice summer.
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that should pay a couple bills. Nitrogen on canola tops out at 90 lbs here, how much did you give it arcus? Yield potential here is 30 if we get nice summer.
30 bu/ac or dt/ha?

We give a lot more nitrogen. Canola needs around 5-6 kg per dt of yeild. So for 50 dt/ha you will need atleast 250kg of nitorgen. Reduced by the Nmin which is in the soil, you got to give atleast 220 kg... ofcourse this is influenced by lots more factors and differs +- 50kg here (differs by expected yeild, developpment of plants, use of organic fertilizer, kind of soil etc...)

And yes, we know that the maximum $/ac isnt always reached by the maximum bu/ac. So it doesnt always make sense to give more nitogen.

Some magazines said: If the canola price rises 1€/dt, the economic optimum of nitrogen use raises by 5kg/ha. If the price for nitrogen rises 0,1€/kg the optimum gets reduced by 15kg N/ha.

So basically you earn the same , no matter if you give 80 kg/ha or 220 kg/ha

For some years we had prices of 400 to 500 €/t canola... so it was worth to invest in a higher yeild.

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