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Yes, strip off the top soil. It doesn't need to be 100% clean, but until the clay starts showing through. When filling with clay, make sure it is packed very well, if you don't it won't be any better than building on the dirt. Have anywhere close by you could dig a borrow pit for clay? Everyone needs a place to bury things later on!

Theres a few gravel pits nearby that have clay. Won't be that hard to get, its mostly the expense of having it hauled over here. I probed around a bit yesterday and didn'nt find clay even at 2 feet! Will have to do a crazy amount of dirt work.

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Id dig a borrow pit close for fill material, and it will eventually fill with water and become a dugout. Handy to have water around and if finished nice can be an attractive landscaping feature that adds value.

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Thorens just use the soil you have that is under the top soil as long as it will compact or be packable.
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If you don't plan on reusing the topsoil, find a local sand, soil, and gravel company and work out a deal with them. They scrape off the topsoil for free, and they get to haul it back to their yard to resell. I worked for a soil company and did that a few times for building preparation as well as new home developments and ditch clearing. If they are a proper set up, they can have is scraped and hauled away in a day or two.
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Never build concrete on top soil. As stated before the om will break down.



Another reason why you do not place concete on black soil is because it expands and contracts with moisture and freezing significantly. Which will cause cracking and compromise structural integrity over time. I wouldn't hesitate to install a dirt floor cold storage on black dirt though.
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The black topsoil lets moisture move through it. Good packed clay does not.
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Thanks for the input guys. Will have to dig to find out how far down clay is and then figure out if it would be worth it from there.
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Another thing that I have learned the hard way is to make sure you build your pad high enough. In my opinion the bottom tin on the shed should be at least 2' higher than the surrounding area. Just add a little fill against the building when done to provide lots of grade to move water away.

Buildings slowly sink over time and as you keep adding gravel to your yard, you will have drainage issues over time if you start out too low. Put the base of your overhead door 1' above the ground.
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I would also add to above comments, I would put weeping tile around the perimeter of your building about 2’ below your cement slab.
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