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post #1981 of 9905 (permalink) Old 10-19-2016, 10:10 AM
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And you KNOW this as fact how exactly?.
Both heard it and saw it directly from the person that actually did the taxes.

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I pay my fair share of taxes but I hate when the governments nickel and dime a guy. The family tax cut has been eliminated in 2016 - lost $2000 income tax because I don't income share with my wife and the support for my family comes from me. When I filed my 2015 taxes, they took it away already and told me I owe them $2000. So I fought that as soon as I got my tax return back because I qualify. I am not an absentee husband or a spouse that is in jail etc. etc. They sent me several notices that I owe them this $2000. Finally got it settled Oct 14 and they credited it back to me. However I now owe them $2.86. I should bill them for my time having to fight my case with them, stamps and everything else. Why they thought they could get away with this, I will never know. I use Turbo Tax program. They said send me the pages from its calculation and they will have a look at it! They couldn't make any sort of judgment on the spot as an error and kept me in limbo from May (when I got my tax return back) until October!

Meanwhile I wasn't sure how things would turn out so I complied and paid them $2000 and the interest that I apparently owed them - $56.00 or so. What a system our countries have - you can't win for losing! I would look forward to Trump simplifying the tax code and making everybody pay something.


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Both heard it and saw it directly from the person that actually did the taxes.
Not sure I'm reading this right, but if I am.. It sounds like it is being said that Trump just signs his tax return but doesn't know jack squat about the tax laws.

I'd challenge that to the point where he has all those lawyers and accountants around him saying it's advantageous to structure a deal in "this" way because the tax laws say..... It's ok to take a loss over here because the tax laws will let us do xyz..

I seriously doubt he runs around making deals and buying property the way he does without having a pretty handy knowledge of how the tax laws are going to play part of it.

Same thing goes for the farmers on this page. You all are not in the business of being an accountant, but by osmosis and talking to your tax guys you know the advantages/disadvantages of buying/leasing/stealing a new pickup by the end of the tax year. I don't... because I'm just a day job with a paycheck and am not in a position to take advantage of any tax law around it. Sometimes you buy fertilizer the day before the end of your tax year because your accountant says you really should do it and here (abcd) is why. You know more about tax laws for these reasons than 95% of the rest of the country (including me).

I suggest same happens for Trump and his knowledge of the tax laws.

Apologies if I totally missed the original point about this.
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Well said noacres!

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Offroad, or anyone else take an hour and read through some of these documents on TiSA
https://wikileaks.org/tisa/releases/

They are interpretations of the actual document and may be wrong but since these trade agreements are to be kept secret it does raise a tiny bit of concern. Even the signing of the agreements is pushed to avoid the democratic process.

Post back and let me know your opinions. Hillary absolutely supports these agreements and is her mission in life to implement. Anything she says otherwise is pure lies - leaked documents show this.
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I don't think Trump actually wants to be President. He wants to prove that he could be elected President. In that respect, he has already made his point.

I think it's unlikely that Trump will be around long enough to seriously contend for the Republican nomination. He's wealthy (though probably not as rich as he would like us to think he is), but is depending on free media coverage to keep him in the spotlight. People are already showing signs of weariness with his act. If you all think back four years, the Republican front runners were Michelle Bachmann and the Pizza Dude. What have they done for us lately?

Trump is making the campaign interesting. If he does run as an independent he will probably give the White House to the Democrats for the 3rd consecutive election (neither party has held the presidency for more than 8 consecutive years since FDR). Even without Trump, the Republicans have a problem getting a presidential candidate elected. In 2012 they couldn't unseat a hugely unpopular incumbent. This time, the party's nominee will likely face a less than universally admired candidate who has been running for President for 14 years. If the Republicans couldn't win in 2012 and don't win in 2016, the party's viability as a major party in the future could be legitimately questioned. They can win all the state legislatures and congressional seats on the ballot but, in our political system, if they don't put someone in The Big Chair, they will be seen as losers.

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Obama will be the first president in history to never have a quarter of 3% growth. Want more of the same? Vote hillary.

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If Trump just comes out of the gate tonight and says I promise America if I ever get anymore sexual allegations against me, I will make a large charitable contribution to the Clinton Foundation in return for Bill Clinton's personal advice, he'll be fine.
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God this debate is good ****


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Clinton's head math on her foundation seems to be little different than the opinion of the IRS.

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2. For an organization that is supposedly a charity, the Clinton Foundation spent very little money on "direct aid." IRS documents showed that the Foundation raised over $500 million from 2009-2012, and yet the Clinton Foundation only spent $75 million on "programmatic grants."

"The other $425 million was allocated as follows: more than $25 million went for travel expenses; almost $110 million for employee salaries and benefits; and $290 million for 'other expenses,'" reports Discover The Networks.

These numbers were similar in the foundation's 2013 tax returns, which revealed that the Clinton Foundation raised over $140 million but only used $9 million in direct aid, according to the New York Post:

7 Things You Need To Know About The Clinton Foundation | Daily Wire
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